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So who thinks they can explain what has actually happened with the EU and The Falkland Islands?

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cakeorwine · 20/07/2023 19:37

Various media groups and no doubt some columnists seem upset about something the EU has done.

Can anyone explain what they think the EU has done and whether we should be upset about it?

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Screamingabdabz · 20/07/2023 22:27

Vintefl · 20/07/2023 20:29

Exactly this. Another Brexit bonus.

Who cares about some islands thousands of miles away anyway. No idea why we still have them.

What a dumbshit comment. Who cares? The people who live there! Who overwhelmingly consider themselves British.

AgathaSpencerGregson · 20/07/2023 22:31

Vintefl · 20/07/2023 20:29

Exactly this. Another Brexit bonus.

Who cares about some islands thousands of miles away anyway. No idea why we still have them.

I dunno, think the people who live there might care a bit

Coyoacan · 20/07/2023 23:53

Beenhereforever1978 · 20/07/2023 22:22

Both names were used in the backpedal.

Over 99% of the inhabitants of the Falklands wish to remain as a UK overseas territory as of their last referendum.

And yes, the British do care about this because they live there?

I'm dissapointed we didn't have a seat at the table to rebutt this because of Brexit. I'm also slightly annoyed that the EU have decided to use that as a stir to provoke the UK. It's petty and silly and spiteful. And potentially dangerous, don't put it past a Tory government to rekindle the Falklands conflict for votes.

I find it very hard to believe that the EU did that out of spite. More like it was looking out for it's own commercial interests

Gothambutnotahamster · 20/07/2023 23:59

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 20/07/2023 20:33

Well, I care. The islands were uninhabited when Europeans first came across them and the current population are of British extraction. They don't want to be annexed by Argentina, a country with which they have no connection and which tried to take the islands by force in 1982.

I agree with this.

Otzi · 21/07/2023 00:02

Argentina is kind of in the shit economically rn but it's tipped as a possible BRICS joiner due to links with Brazil and there's still a lot of wealth there. Depending on the intended audience of the document it may be politic to refer to the islands by their Spanish name - Spanish being the main language for much of the global south americas and the second language for a large chunk of the rest of the world. I'm pretty sure it's not a green light for Argentina to go invading all over again.

Lovepeaceunderstanding · 21/07/2023 00:05

There is a long running dispute between the U.K. and Argentina in regard to The Falkland Islands. Importantly the people of The Falkland Islands wish to remain British.
There was a Falklands war which the U.K. won defending the Falkland Islands from Argentina.
Very recently the EU have negotiated a trade deal with a group including Argentina. In this deal the EU have accepted The Falkland Islands being also described as The Malvinas (which is their Argentinian name) Argentina have claimed this as a huge diplomatic support to their claim to the islands. This is a massive diplomatic issue between the EU and U.K.

daisychaindays · 21/07/2023 00:08

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 20/07/2023 20:33

Well, I care. The islands were uninhabited when Europeans first came across them and the current population are of British extraction. They don't want to be annexed by Argentina, a country with which they have no connection and which tried to take the islands by force in 1982.

Agreed

IamSTARVING · 21/07/2023 00:09

MaidOfSteel · 20/07/2023 22:09

Yep. Spot on.

The EU used the name the Argentinians wrongly use, probably as a poke in the eye to us. I'm getting sick of the way the EU has behaved towards us since Brexit. I was a remainer but now I never want to rejoin.

We can't rejoin!

cakeorwine · 21/07/2023 00:48

Lovepeaceunderstanding · 21/07/2023 00:05

There is a long running dispute between the U.K. and Argentina in regard to The Falkland Islands. Importantly the people of The Falkland Islands wish to remain British.
There was a Falklands war which the U.K. won defending the Falkland Islands from Argentina.
Very recently the EU have negotiated a trade deal with a group including Argentina. In this deal the EU have accepted The Falkland Islands being also described as The Malvinas (which is their Argentinian name) Argentina have claimed this as a huge diplomatic support to their claim to the islands. This is a massive diplomatic issue between the EU and U.K.

I know all about the Falklands conflct. I was trying to see what had actually happened with the EU as the media reports seem conflicting and no doubt a bit biased.

I don't think it seems a huge diplomatic issue. Using both names does not mean support for a particular view.

If they had not used "Falkland Islands", then I think they could say it was a diplomatic issue.

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Bluesheeps · 21/07/2023 00:58

Lol at “should we be upset about it” ….you’re either upset about it or you’re not

sashh · 21/07/2023 03:46

BlissfullyIgnorant · 20/07/2023 20:22

Born and bred Falkland Islanders consider themselves British, and (almost) all British stand by that. Given our forces travelled half way round the planet to save our fellow subjects/citizens from foreign invaders, along with much loss of life on both sides, the name Falkland Islands should most definitely stand.
EU are just upset because UK dumped them like a shite lover

They went half way round the world to get Thatcher another term in office. Prior to the invasion she was trying to dump them on Argentina.

Until then Falkland Islanders were not British citizens but 'British Overseas Territories Citizens.

Tippingadvice · 21/07/2023 03:49

It’s petty and of no consequence.

The EU are pissed off that over time we will pay less and less to prop up the bureaucracy they have saddled themselves with and so some countries will have to plug the gap.

Remember this is a bureaucracy that couldn’t agree where to base itself so it shuttles between Strasbourg and Brussels costing c€100m+ every year.

Vintefl · 21/07/2023 03:55

sashh · 21/07/2023 03:46

They went half way round the world to get Thatcher another term in office. Prior to the invasion she was trying to dump them on Argentina.

Until then Falkland Islanders were not British citizens but 'British Overseas Territories Citizens.

This with bells on. And the Argentine dictator invaded them for similar political reasons too. It's all a smokescreen and people who get angry about them and 'sovereignty ' are just playing into the politicians hands. Nothing like a war to stoke some nationalism and they all know this.

pickledandpuzzled · 22/07/2023 10:08

HonoriaLucastaDelagardie · 20/07/2023 22:25

I'm interested in why it's ok for Deutschland to be called Germany, Koln Cologne etc.

Like London being called Londres?

Yes. Absolutely.

Why is it so important in some cases, and not in others?

Many places have different names in different languages. It's considered very disrespectful in some cases, and routinely acceptable in others.

LauraNicolaides · 22/07/2023 20:38

pickledandpuzzled · 22/07/2023 10:08

Yes. Absolutely.

Why is it so important in some cases, and not in others?

Many places have different names in different languages. It's considered very disrespectful in some cases, and routinely acceptable in others.

The ones that attract controversy are usually colonial powers imposing colonial era names on colonised territory.

LauraNicolaides · 22/07/2023 20:39

IamSTARVING · 21/07/2023 00:09

We can't rejoin!

We can - see Art 49.

IamSTARVING · 22/07/2023 22:24

LauraNicolaides · 22/07/2023 20:39

We can - see Art 49.

OK - agreed.

But the hoops would be plenty. They have to have a unanimous vote. Do they all like us? Have we enough diplomatic heft to get all countries to agree to let us back in?

I think what I mean is - it would take a chunk of time and it ain't a given!

Chewbecca · 22/07/2023 22:31

MrTiddlesTheCat · 20/07/2023 19:50

They used the Argentinian name for them in some document related to an agreement with the south American version of the EU. The UK government threw a strop because the British name wasn't used. I'm now waiting for the UK government to announce that they will be using the real names for other non-british places rather than the english names, seeing as they don't like it when it's the other way round.

But Falkland Islands is the 'real' name.

This is not the same as using a British name when they use something else locally.

Falkland Islanders do not call it Malvinas, they consider it an insulting name in fact.

Chewbecca · 22/07/2023 22:31

Insulting / a sign of aggression probably more accurately.

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