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How does the BBC get out of the presenter mess?

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mids2019 · 11/07/2023 07:13

Seriously how does the BBC now go forward and what can be the conclusion to this story? The story could run for some time with on going speculation about the presenter and eventually in my opinion a name will drop.

Can there therefore be any sort of fair investigation because I think there may be too much aspirational damage now for a career to be as ed. It seems the knives the BBC sit on this the more scrutiny there is and they desperately need a conclusion?

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StefanosHill · 11/07/2023 10:55

Calloffruity · 11/07/2023 10:45

What would you do if your teenage child had developed a drug habit that was being funded by a BBC household name...you go to the police but are told nothing illegal has happened, we can't help...you go to the BBC and they do nothing...it's understandable why you would try a tabloid as a last ditch attempt to make people listen

I don’t know what I’d do but I can believe it’s what’s motivating them

Figgygal · 11/07/2023 10:56

The sun is a filthy rag
What is alleged isn't even illegal
I dont know why people are frothing over this its a private matter - social media is really digging new depths this year after the Nicola Bulley and Philip schofield debacles.

RebelR · 11/07/2023 10:58

Figgygal · 11/07/2023 10:56

The sun is a filthy rag
What is alleged isn't even illegal
I dont know why people are frothing over this its a private matter - social media is really digging new depths this year after the Nicola Bulley and Philip schofield debacles.

It is illegal.

We'll never get change and young people will always be exploited if no one's gong to hold these people to account.

LozengeShaped · 11/07/2023 10:59

It can't be that The Sun (who will have taken legal advice) have put themselves at risk of being sued for massive damages by printing a story where they have no proof?
Surely the story was carefully about the BBC not taking action when one of their employees was accused of a crime. It wasn't that a celeb had committed a crime, and he wasn't named. That suggests to me they have no evidence that would stand up in court.

Juanmartinez · 11/07/2023 11:00

tunbridgeoutrage · 11/07/2023 10:43

The thing I don’t understand is that it started on OnlyFans which means it is legal, isn’t it? If not then OF should be in the sticky stuff not the presenter. Even if he paid the young person thousands of pounds that is between them, no?

OF is just speculation, no one knows how they were in contact.

Blossomtoes · 11/07/2023 11:02

RebelR · 11/07/2023 10:58

It is illegal.

We'll never get change and young people will always be exploited if no one's gong to hold these people to account.

I don’t know how you can categorically state it’s illegal when clearly the police aren’t sure and the alleged victim says it’s rubbish.

kirinm · 11/07/2023 11:04

LozengeShaped · 11/07/2023 10:59

It can't be that The Sun (who will have taken legal advice) have put themselves at risk of being sued for massive damages by printing a story where they have no proof?
Surely the story was carefully about the BBC not taking action when one of their employees was accused of a crime. It wasn't that a celeb had committed a crime, and he wasn't named. That suggests to me they have no evidence that would stand up in court.

Yep agree with this. The Sun made this story about the BBC not acting when the dad / parent approached them in May. Presumably with zero evidence. I don't think the Sun has seen anything other than emails sent to the BBC.

namechange998 · 11/07/2023 11:04

I can't find who it is! How is it everywhere and I can't find it!

Tanith · 11/07/2023 11:04

Wheresthebeach · 11/07/2023 10:42

It can't be that The Sun (who will have taken legal advice) have put themselves at risk of being sued for massive damages by printing a story where they have no proof? Time will tell but why would they risk it? Murdock may be a massive Right Wing Tory supporter but this would be business suicide.

Why on earth not? It wouldn’t be the first time the Sun has completely fabricated one of its stories. They’re known for it.

”Lies, Damned Lies and Sun Exclusives!”

That’s what used to be said about them. It’s a phase coined by the Mirror after the Sun invented an interview they never did and called it a World Exclusive.

Juanmartinez · 11/07/2023 11:05

namechange998 · 11/07/2023 11:04

I can't find who it is! How is it everywhere and I can't find it!

You can't be looking very hard.

RebelR · 11/07/2023 11:09

Blossomtoes · 11/07/2023 11:02

I don’t know how you can categorically state it’s illegal when clearly the police aren’t sure and the alleged victim says it’s rubbish.

What's alleged (which si waht was saidy) is illegal. Obviously none of us know of it happened, but the allegation,if accurate, is of illegal acts.

NeedToThinkOfOne · 11/07/2023 11:09

Figgygal · 11/07/2023 10:56

The sun is a filthy rag
What is alleged isn't even illegal
I dont know why people are frothing over this its a private matter - social media is really digging new depths this year after the Nicola Bulley and Philip schofield debacles.

Well said @Figgygal

My hope is that more parents might start paying attention to what content their children are consuming. Who they are talking to and who they are influenced by. How to help them understand fake news and images. Help them to understand how comments have an impact on the real life of people who haven’t necessarily done anything illegal.

This current generation of keyboard warriors are quite happy to blow up someone’s life based on some whodunnit tease from a shitty tabloid with a ‘powerful’ owner.

YouAreBeingUnbearable · 11/07/2023 11:10

Juanmartinez · 11/07/2023 11:05

You can't be looking very hard.

I don’t know who it is either. I’ve Googled and looked on Tattle but I’m getting upwards of 10 names that keep reappearing and it seems from this thread there is a ‘favourite’. Where do I need to look? I’m obviously crap at this. Can someone “DM me hun”? 😂

watermeloncougar · 11/07/2023 11:13

*@NeedToThinkOfOne
Figgygal
The sun is a filthy rag
What is alleged isn't even illegal
I dont know why people are frothing over this its a private matter - social media is really digging new depths this year after the Nicola Bulley and Philip schofield debacles.

Well said @Figgygal

My hope is that more parents might start paying attention to what content their children are consuming. Who they are talking to and who they are influenced by. How to help them understand fake news and images. Help them to understand how comments have an impact on the real life of people who haven’t necessarily done anything illegal.

This current generation of keyboard warriors are quite happy to blow up someone’s life based on some whodunnit tease from a shitty tabloid with a ‘powerful’ owner.*

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
This. 100% this.

beguilingeyes · 11/07/2023 11:13

Wheresthebeach · 11/07/2023 10:42

It can't be that The Sun (who will have taken legal advice) have put themselves at risk of being sued for massive damages by printing a story where they have no proof? Time will tell but why would they risk it? Murdock may be a massive Right Wing Tory supporter but this would be business suicide.

It didn't stop them over Hillsborough. Mud sticks. Murdoch is an evil man.

How does the BBC get out of the presenter mess?
GnomeDePlume · 11/07/2023 11:13

funnelfan · 11/07/2023 09:11

The reason the presenters job is now untenable is that they would have no credibility or objectivity when presenting on matters relating to sleaze from other sources such as the government or other presenters on other channels. Same reason Angus Deayton had to step down as presenter from HIGNFY.

Yes, Angus Deayton had to step down from HIGNFY when he had become the news rather than commenting on it.

toodlesofoodles · 11/07/2023 11:15

How could they suspend on the basis of vague allegations that no-one would back up? That would be dreadful employment practice.

That's exactly the correct employment practice. Suspension on full pay isn't a punishment, it's to protect all parties while the allegation is investigated. If the outcome had been that said presenter hadn't broken their terms of employment (which would include breaking the law) then they would be back to normal duties, if not they'd go through the dismissal process.

Plbrookes · 11/07/2023 11:21

Juanmartinez · 11/07/2023 11:00

OF is just speculation, no one knows how they were in contact.

No. If someone possesses an indecent image of a child they are committing an offence (various defences to this but none that would apply if eg someone bought images via OF and looked at them on their device).

Wheresthebeach · 11/07/2023 11:24

beguilingeyes · 11/07/2023 11:13

It didn't stop them over Hillsborough. Mud sticks. Murdoch is an evil man.

Fair point.

IbitebecauseIwantto · 11/07/2023 11:25

YouAreBeingUnbearable · 11/07/2023 11:10

I don’t know who it is either. I’ve Googled and looked on Tattle but I’m getting upwards of 10 names that keep reappearing and it seems from this thread there is a ‘favourite’. Where do I need to look? I’m obviously crap at this. Can someone “DM me hun”? 😂

I don’t have twitter but I just photo googled leaked bbc photo tv presenter or something like that.

Juanmartinez · 11/07/2023 11:25

Plbrookes · 11/07/2023 11:21

No. If someone possesses an indecent image of a child they are committing an offence (various defences to this but none that would apply if eg someone bought images via OF and looked at them on their device).

I was replying to someone who said this started on OF . Not the legalities of it.

Qilin · 11/07/2023 11:26

Has anyone got a link to the lawyers letter.
PP says that is how people know the young adult is male as it apparently says 'his mother' . However, all the links to the letter I've seen don't reference the person's sex at all.

Wheresthebeach · 11/07/2023 11:26

Tanith · 11/07/2023 11:04

Why on earth not? It wouldn’t be the first time the Sun has completely fabricated one of its stories. They’re known for it.

”Lies, Damned Lies and Sun Exclusives!”

That’s what used to be said about them. It’s a phase coined by the Mirror after the Sun invented an interview they never did and called it a World Exclusive.

Yes all fair points. It just boggles my mind that they would risk such a huge law suit.

AngelsForever · 11/07/2023 11:27

Didn’t the parents also claim they heard the accused on the phone to the victim ‘what the fuck are you doing’ or something along those lines. There doesn’t seem to be much evidence that we the public no but all is very fishy. Payoff or an embarrassed 20 year old if you ask me. What ever happened to the Schofield victim….probably the same although I can only speculate.

AngelsForever · 11/07/2023 11:28

Funnliy enough I watched Jeremy vine this morning…he was discussing this and he named everyone that’s been mentioned apart from the name all over Twitter 🤨

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