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Should I just say sod you all?

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RagingRoundTheBend · 06/07/2023 20:25

I am a good friend; not by my own admission, my friends tell me I am. I’m a good listener. I give advice but I don’t interfere. I check in on people. I offer to help and so on.

I don’t have any close friends, it’s a few different good friends. We occasionally go out for meals but would never travel together sort of friends.

The problem is, I’m beginning to become resentful at the lack of reciprocation or care. A few of us have some big things going on in our lives.

Friend A’s marriage broke down. I was there for her and confided that DH and I had a rough patch. I consoled her and obviously kept her business to myself. OTOH, she had announced all of the things I had told her, to all of her friends , who I was also acquainted with. I only found out when these friends of hers brought it up with me in conversation.

Friend B is going through a hard time. Again, I’ve been there, commuting two hour round trips to help her with things. Sorting out major things for her. It is always me travelling to her and has been for the last few years. She never offers to visit. It is also always me initiating conversations and checking up on her . She’ll then ask how I am.

It’s been a few weeks since I saw her, so I asked if she wanted to meet up for lunch and I suggested a place half way for us both. She took a while to respond and eventually said she’s not in the right frame of mind to meet up. I understood and left it at that. I’ve since found out she’s been out with others in the week I suggested we meet up. It’s clear she just didn’t want to. However, she’ll then make comments that I don’t visit enough.

Friend C. It’s always me texting asking how they are. They are busy but they just seem to have lost interest.

Friend D. Lovely but very self absorbed. She will leave general chit chat messages on read but will reply eventually, when she needs help with something I am knowledgeable about. She makes noises about meeting for lunch but it never materialises.

I am chronically ill. My time is precious to me because I am permanently exhausted. I have 3 children, of which two have SN, both are high needs. My eldest DC plays sport at a high level and is at practice every week night; she relies on DH and I to take her. DH works. I’m a SAHM due to my own and DC care needs. I do however, have a 1.5hr daily commute to take DC2 for therapies.

I’ve been feeling overwhelmed and in burn out for a while, but none of my friends know. They have not asked either. I have treatment for my illness next week, which will leave me housebound for at least a week. Not one person has offered any sort of help or support.

The last straw is Friend B having declined my offer to meet for lunch due to poor mental health (all fine), but then her mentioning to me she’s been out socially elsewhere. She is the type of person who will complain if you don’t make an effort, but it’s never good enough when you do.

I’m so hurt and annoyed. Should I just sod it all and quietly retreat?

OP posts:
RagingRoundTheBend · 06/07/2023 21:11

Shameful bump.

OP posts:
GardeningIdiot · 06/07/2023 21:11

The dynamics are all wrong. It's an easy situation for some of us to get into and is posted about a lot on here.

Being too available and too helpful seems to skew the relationships, or we choose friends who will happily take without reciprocating. Probably both.

I'll link a thread that has some similarities, OP.

GardeningIdiot · 06/07/2023 21:12

And you not telling your friends about your current situation is part of it. Possibly because you fear them not responding.

GardeningIdiot · 06/07/2023 21:20

This one may be useful for you: Feeling let down. http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4839590-feeling-let-down

EarringsandLipstick · 06/07/2023 21:26

It's tough OP. I understand because I've experienced similar.

I'm sorry you are unwell, and dealing with so much.

I would step back from the friendships. I think it's hard to alter the dynamic. While you could try to address it with them, I suspect it won't yield results & they may not change.

That still leaves you without support. Could you focus on your health / DC needs for a while? In a position of strength, you might be able to revisit the area of friendships.

calmcoco · 06/07/2023 21:27

I think it warrants thought/investigation as to whether you have a pattern of creating/choosing the same dynamic.

I would retreat. Don't fall out, just mentally move them into a category of 'I'll respond if they ask' rather than chasing.

I've downgraded someone myself recently, someone who'd had a lot of help from me in the past but was completely blank when I had a situation myself.

frozendaisy · 06/07/2023 21:28

Take a few deep breaths OP.

Time to concentrate on you, your health, your family and the rest can wait.

If anyone messages, I wouldn't message them, just tell the truth, going to be/ have been laid up with x condition/treatment.

And concentrate on recovering.

Then see where you are.

YogaLite · 06/07/2023 21:36

U know what it is OP, they live by the rule "surround yourself with people who make u happy", plenty of that around, they don't want to hear about anyone else's problems.

@frozendaisy is right, I'll back and concentrate on your own family.

I had to do the same, with sn DC, the only people who just about understand are those in a similar circumstances but even those are too wrapped up in their own lives so whilst friendly, we never have time to meet socially.

As I am getting older, I have less and less time for anyone except own family. Sod the rest.

RagingRoundTheBend · 06/07/2023 21:44

I’m grateful for the responses. I think my treatment is the perfect time to quietly retreat and concentrate on me. Sort of a reset. It’s just very disheartening.

Not to blow my own trumpet, but I wish I had a friend like me. I have no support network at all.

OP posts:
RagingRoundTheBend · 06/07/2023 21:45

@GardeningIdiot I will have a read of the thread. (Flowers)

OP posts:
Hawkins0001 · 06/07/2023 21:55

RagingRoundTheBend · 06/07/2023 20:25

I am a good friend; not by my own admission, my friends tell me I am. I’m a good listener. I give advice but I don’t interfere. I check in on people. I offer to help and so on.

I don’t have any close friends, it’s a few different good friends. We occasionally go out for meals but would never travel together sort of friends.

The problem is, I’m beginning to become resentful at the lack of reciprocation or care. A few of us have some big things going on in our lives.

Friend A’s marriage broke down. I was there for her and confided that DH and I had a rough patch. I consoled her and obviously kept her business to myself. OTOH, she had announced all of the things I had told her, to all of her friends , who I was also acquainted with. I only found out when these friends of hers brought it up with me in conversation.

Friend B is going through a hard time. Again, I’ve been there, commuting two hour round trips to help her with things. Sorting out major things for her. It is always me travelling to her and has been for the last few years. She never offers to visit. It is also always me initiating conversations and checking up on her . She’ll then ask how I am.

It’s been a few weeks since I saw her, so I asked if she wanted to meet up for lunch and I suggested a place half way for us both. She took a while to respond and eventually said she’s not in the right frame of mind to meet up. I understood and left it at that. I’ve since found out she’s been out with others in the week I suggested we meet up. It’s clear she just didn’t want to. However, she’ll then make comments that I don’t visit enough.

Friend C. It’s always me texting asking how they are. They are busy but they just seem to have lost interest.

Friend D. Lovely but very self absorbed. She will leave general chit chat messages on read but will reply eventually, when she needs help with something I am knowledgeable about. She makes noises about meeting for lunch but it never materialises.

I am chronically ill. My time is precious to me because I am permanently exhausted. I have 3 children, of which two have SN, both are high needs. My eldest DC plays sport at a high level and is at practice every week night; she relies on DH and I to take her. DH works. I’m a SAHM due to my own and DC care needs. I do however, have a 1.5hr daily commute to take DC2 for therapies.

I’ve been feeling overwhelmed and in burn out for a while, but none of my friends know. They have not asked either. I have treatment for my illness next week, which will leave me housebound for at least a week. Not one person has offered any sort of help or support.

The last straw is Friend B having declined my offer to meet for lunch due to poor mental health (all fine), but then her mentioning to me she’s been out socially elsewhere. She is the type of person who will complain if you don’t make an effort, but it’s never good enough when you do.

I’m so hurt and annoyed. Should I just sod it all and quietly retreat?

Most people are a puzzlement,
On the other hand some people or a fair few, will be the people that are like Diamond's and help without you evening knowing that they have helped and it's always much appreciated.

EarringsandLipstick · 06/07/2023 21:56

Not to blow my own trumpet, but I wish I had a friend like me. I have no support network at all.

I hear you. My circumstances aren't yours. But I am the same regarding support.
Take some time & prioritise yourself for now. Other opportunities may open up ❤️

Soonenough · 06/07/2023 22:04

I have noticed the same with people. I wish I had a sister and friends like me. I feel like I should do the right thing by people in life sndctryvto be kind and helpful. Unfortunately the people on my life don't seem to think the same.

Isn't it often said that you know who your true friends are when you are in need or ill. ? Perhaps contact support groups related to your own illness and find out if there are any groups to help with your DCs.

Restinggoddess · 06/07/2023 22:06

There is nowt so queer as folk

have been in a similar position and was disappointed- but ultimately people can be selfish and unthinking
Put yourself first - real good friends will check in with you ( and if they don’t then they were not friends - sorry)

GreenMarigold · 06/07/2023 22:15

So sorry to hear you have been treated like this. I’ve also been let down by people and it sucks.

You sound like a lovely friend. Have a bit of a reset then put yourself out there and find some good people.

EmmaEmerald · 06/07/2023 22:21

RagingRoundTheBend · 06/07/2023 21:44

I’m grateful for the responses. I think my treatment is the perfect time to quietly retreat and concentrate on me. Sort of a reset. It’s just very disheartening.

Not to blow my own trumpet, but I wish I had a friend like me. I have no support network at all.

I understand OP. I no longer give endlessly to those who give nothing. I've posted about it lots so I won't bang on again.

I have realised that some of the people who help in a crisis are completely random and I am very grateful to them and will help in return.

I really hope your treatment goes well Flowers

determinedtomakethiswork · 06/07/2023 22:30

I think one thing I've learnt from Mumsnet is that there are so many really shit friends. There are tons of people who are completely self-absorbed and selfish. They might be good fun but you end up doing so much for them and the minute you need any kind of help or sympathy yourself, they are nowhere to be seen. They are users.

I know exactly what you mean about wanting a friend who is just like you. You really deserve that. 💐

RagingRoundTheBend · 08/07/2023 20:20

Thank you for the responses. I’ve been reading over them again today as I’m just so sad about it all. One friend who I felt I was close to, has today made it clear that they don’t feel the same about the friendship; they implied I was dispensable in the way they worded something.

I feel like a mug for all the effort I put in. I am genuinely a good person, maybe I try too hard. I have no family. I seem to be one of those people who are just treated either badly or as a convenience, by others. I think I need to accept it and move on.

OP posts:
GardeningIdiot · 08/07/2023 21:33

I seem to be one of those people who are just treated either badly or as a convenience, by others. I think I need to accept it and move on.

Painful situation, OP. I'm sorry. Have been in a similar situation myself.

But, I don't think you have to just accept the above. You can be more aware of this pattern and try to change the dynamics in friendships from now on. Not these friends, I agree, move on from them. Set a new pattern with friends in future - don't be so 'good' and selfless, focus on your own needs and interests more.

GardeningIdiot · 08/07/2023 21:35

... it is healthier and tends to generate more respect and less taking for granted.

Probably won't come easily to you, but worth seeing this as a changing point.

Xeren · 08/07/2023 21:47

I would pull back. And if you hear from them, be honest about what’s going on in your life. I personally wouldn’t even bother asking them how they are.

It sounds like you already have a lot going on with your health and family, so just concentrate on the kids and lighten your load.

I learnt the hard way when close family members (who I’ve done a lot for) didn’t bothered to even acknowledge my DC’s 1st birthday.

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