Second hand pushchair - should I accept it back?

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I sold my daughter's old travel system - was a pram / pushchair / car seat combo with loads of accessories. A woman bought it yesterday for her grandchild. She was saying how her son wanted one costing £1200 but she'd told him second hand was fine. She paid £50.

She's now messaged me saying that her son has told her it's too old and doesn't meet current safety standards and I shouldn't have sold it.

For reference, it's 15 years old, used for one child and has been fully serviced. It has a 5 point safety harness, lies flat and has a two stage collapsing mechanism which are the key recommendations from what I can see.

Should I offer to give her the money back?

I don't believe that it can't be used safely, I think her son is angling for a new system.

Not your problem. She came, saw it, bought it.

Tell her to sell it on if she no longer wants it. You aren't a shop.

Well I wouldn't use a 15yo car seat, but I would have checked the age first (and probably wouldn't have bought a second-hand car seat in the first place). For £50 I would just use the pram and ditch the car seat and still think it was a decent deal.

Just tell her to put it up on Marketplace? She can put it as free if wants it out the way (and sounds like it it would be a total bargain £50!)

Sold as seen. Don’t have to accept it back.

But no, I would not use a 15 year old car seat for my baby.

I wouldn't want to use a 15 year old pram or car seat either personally. But she was the one who bought it, just say no returns and tell her to sell it on.

That's between her and her son and isn't your problem.

Agreed you don't have to take it back and I'd recommend to her to relist it on fb marketplace if she no longer wants it but I can absolutely see her sons point of view I don't know a single person who would use a 15 year old car seat and he's right that it won't meet the standards as it will have expired.

“I’m sorry to hear that. Unfortunately I don’t offer returns but you do have the option of selling on if your son no longer has a use for it”

"This is not a shop. I'm a private individual selling an item you bought, fully aware of its condition. You can donate it to charity or sell it on."

I do agree with the son that the car seat shouldn't have been sold. A 15yo car seat will have long expired (car seats have a recommended life-span, which is usually around 5-7 years). I see a lot of old car seats for sale on FB when they just need their straps cut and taken to the tip.

But seeing as it came with the pram, they could easily just chuck the car seat and enjoy the pram they got for £50!

15 years old!

Of course it's out of date.

I appreciate the car seat, and on reflection I shouldn't have included that bit. The rest of the pram is a lie-flat buggy with rain cover, parasol and winter foot muff plus a lie-flat pram inner suitable until baby can sit, and you can get an optional 5-point harness for it. It's Silver Cross, so a good brand, and I included the original instructions.

I've always understood "buyer beware", she barely asked any questions, just said how clean it looked and handed over the money!

Nope. No refund.

I agree with her son though- that isn't going to be up to current safety standards

But whose problem is that?

Are they still selling that model?

@Lastusernamecantthinkofanotherone no they're not. But there are 20 for sale on ebay as I checked to see what price would be fair before listing.

I've looked up all the guidelines. It meets the 1996 and 2003 guidelines, as well as the 1997 legislation. The guidelines from 2018 may or may not be met, as I can't see exactly what testing is involved, but it covers stability, longevity, safety harness and entrapment.

The pushchair is not unsafe, but pushchairs sold today may be a bit heavier so they are harder to tip over.

She's still messaging me.

Sold as seen. End of story.

I get where the son is coming from, sounds like his mum's overexcited about the grandchild and wants to push her gifts on to him. Not your problem though and I'd stay out of it.

Not your problem my Mil did this too. No way was I putting my new born in a strangers old pram, no idea of it's care, smoke free, repairs etc. She made a mistake so now she has to live with it.

I would happily have used a recent family pram where I knew the history and did pass on my out n about to a family member..

Just block her.