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Would you have a second baby if you were me?

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ShimmyingThroughTheChaos · 27/06/2023 22:17

Name change for this.
About to turn 40. DS about to turn 2. It feels like now or never for a second baby. Motherhood has been a true joy so far and I actually found the baby stage a lot more enriching and interesting than I expected. I would love to expand our family if mother nature is willing to comply. So what's putting me off having another?
Short version: I didn't get an easy baby (colic, appalling sleeper, late walker, fussy eater) long postpartum recovery (pelvic floor took a bashing and lochia was crazy heavy and went on for well over a month) and to top it all off my DH went completely off the rails after a family bereavement when baby was a few weeks old. I know the term nervous breakdown isn't used any more but this is the best description I can come up with. He did the bare minimum with the baby and was in a fog of grief and rage that he is only just emerging from now. Even on good days the emotional atmosphere was like living on the slopes of a volcano that could erupt at any moment. Nothing I said or did seemed to be enough. Things are a lot better now and he is mostly a good dad and is a lot more stable. He says he is up for another baby. But I can't forget the image of the man who screamed at me and punched the mattress in anger when I was up at 3am trying to settle the baby and had said something that set him off. Or the times I cried on the way home from baby classes because I knew I would be coming home to a horrible atmosphere.

I'm swinging between making peace with not brining another human into this shitshow we are only emerging from now, and wanting to have another child to complete the family before it's too late.

Two under two is very much seen as optimal in my circle (and on Mumsnet too, it seems). But there is just no way I could have done it. It would have physically and mentally wrecked me in my situation. Some days I feel so ashamed of it when I see women with bigger families. I love babies and children, so why am I not capable of doing what they have managed to do? I read stories on here all the time of women who have had awful birth and newborn experiences and who have powered on through subsequent pregnancies "to get the baby stage out of the way" or because they are in their late 30s/early 40s. Sometimes I feel selfish that my self preservation instinct has overridden my desire for another child. But on the other hand, I've been focusing on rebuilding my marriage, my body and my career so that I can become financially independent and create the most stable environment for the existing child rather than throwing caution to the wind and getting pregnant again. and some days I feel as though that is the more responsible thing to do, even if it could cost us the chance for another baby.
What would you do?

OP posts:
SweetAndSourChick3n · 28/06/2023 10:12

He was abusive. I would only consider another if he would commit to regular counselling starting immediately and continuing throughout the baby stage.

Peony654 · 28/06/2023 10:17

I've never met anyone who has had two under two. As you say, a longer gap between births is recommended. Everyone I know waited until first got free childcare hours. I would say not to have another - and not to feel a single moment guilt about this. You need to move away from the mindset of your family not being 'complete', it was 'complete' before you even had your child. You then added to it. (I HATE the phrase 'start a family').

GiveOverRover · 28/06/2023 10:17

Icedlatteplease · 27/06/2023 22:43

Nope. No way.

Personally I'd assume, if he was punching mattresses, that I'm likely to be a single parent at some point. I'd be doing what I could to make that possibility comfortable. Honestly having done the whole single parent thing with two (the second also turned out to have SN), there's no way of earth I'd choose to bring a second child into a situation that was inherently unstable.

Soooo much easier with one and putting your energy into the child you have

This. It's arguably harder to leave with two, should his behaviour regress and you need to get you and your DC away from him. Yes family bereavements can be devastating, but they don't see someone who is balanced screaming and punching the mattress next to a new mother and baby. This is abusive.
It would be a mistake to put his behaviour down to "grief", your instinct is trying to you protect you and your DC by making you reticent to have another baby with him. It's good that he's emerging from his fog of rage but the behaviour you have experienced from him in the most vulnerable time of your life has made you feel very unsafe, understandably, and that's not an attractive basis for making babies. It's good that his behaviour is more stable but unless he has done a shedload of work to find out why he behaved how he did, and prevent it happening in future and roadtested the theory extensively, I wouldn't be making any more babies with him unless you're up for round two of the same or worse.

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GiveOverRover · 28/06/2023 10:17

This. It's arguably harder to leave with two, should his behaviour regress and you need to get you and your DC away from him. Yes family bereavements can be devastating, but they don't see someone who is balanced screaming and punching the mattress next to a new mother and baby. This is abusive.
It would be a mistake to put his behaviour down to "grief", your instinct is trying to you protect you and your DC by making you reticent to have another baby with him. It's good that he's emerging from his fog of rage but the behaviour you have experienced from him in the most vulnerable time of your life has made you feel very unsafe, understandably, and that's not an attractive basis for making babies. It's good that his behaviour is more stable but unless he has done a shedload of work to find out why he behaved how he did, and prevent it happening in future and roadtested the theory extensively, I wouldn't be making any more babies with him unless you're up for round two of the same or worse.

Agree.

Very sad to read that someone believes grief is a legitimate reason to abuse and terrorise a new mother.

How the OP would ever feel safe around him again is beyond me.

He's clearly a deeply unstable angry man with no self control, who was totally set off by a bereavement.

Poor OP.
I really hope she puts herself and her child first and dumps that awful angry man.

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