Missing Titanic submarine

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How horrifying that a submarine carrying 5 people has gone missing. Apparently there’s only 96 hours of air on the submarine when it sets off.

The people on board must be terrified!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65953872.amp

Probably but then he's a grade A attention seeking wassock

I hope the billionaires, or their estates, are forced to pay the search and rescue bill.
I obviously hope they haven't/don't meet a horrible death, but this was a risky vanity project and the consequences should be their responsibility.

There is a lot of speculation on Twitter about implosion. Would the sound of that have been picked up by the mother ship I wonder?

I didn’t realise that Titans maximum depth was 4000m, and the titanic sits at 3800 so it is always operating within 200m of its absolute maximum depth. The more I read about this the more I agree that it is a ridiculous, Mickey Mouse operation that should never have been allowed.

Awful for the families of those on board.

Thank you! Informative posts are always appreciated.

Bring stuck underwater is a horrific thought - but the whole point of the expedition was to view the underwater grave of 1000 people, so the risks of the ocean were there in plain sight.

Nothing to do with Titanic, but there is an amazing film called ‘Last Breath’ it was on Netflix until recently, I would recommend it. It’s about divers that go down to very deep waters and all the safety systems they have and it still can fail. It’s worth a watch definitely.

@3luckystars - thanks for posting that link, it explains a few things. This is such a horrific situation. Hoping for some positive news soon.

I do hope that's true. It's not what was said of the 39 Vietnamese people who suffocated in the back of a lorry in 2019.

The father son pair is very sad.

The submersible uses his starlink for communication so already involved

Sadly I think that the vessel has been crushed by the insanely high water pressure at nearly 4 km deep - approx 6000 pounds per square inch or equivalent to the weight of 13 elephants on the palm of your hand.

The most logical reason for the pinger not working is that this submersible has been crushed. Also it's worth noting that a submersible is tethered to the mothership and winched up and down whereas a submarine is autonomous and can go up and down on its own accord. This is a submersible.

What?? It's a service that is offered if you have enough to pay. It's the company's responsibility to ensure that the service is safe for its customers.

I would assume that if the passengers were of low-income backgrounds, you wouldn't be frothing at the mouth, demanding their money pays for the search and rescue operation.

What a stupid post.

It's a truly horrific situation, and really I feel it should never have been allowed. The risks are too great, rescue is pretty much impossible if you are stranded down there at that depth.

Has anyone said anything about the temperature inside the submersible? If the power is out then they'd get so cold as ocean temperature at that depth is around 0 to 4 C.

I suppose the best outcome is that they are able to float to the surface and get noticed and rescued.

They said on radio 4 this morning that it isn't tethered.

I would assume that if the passengers were of low-income backgrounds, you wouldn't be frothing at the mouth, demanding their money pays for the search and rescue operation

I don't know, plenty of people think costs should be paid for RNLI and mountain rescue operations when people go walking when it's dangerous or decide to go somewhere after their dog.

I always assumed that when large commercial endeavours fail like this, there is a mechanism for their insurance to refund the cost of rescue. I am sure I have read of the US claiming back costs before now...

US Coast Guard (who are leading the recue/recovery) are banned by law for charging for rescues.

That may be so, but it just seems that because there's a billionaire on board, the poster believes they are solely to blame. I just don't see that is the case. Yes, it's dangerous, and you couldn't pay me enough to do it, but these people also put their faith in the company that they are as safe as can be. You could argue that people paying to attend theme parks should pay for the rescue missions etc when something awful happens - but they don't.

It's a heartbreakingly atrocious situation, and some compassion is needed. Unfortunately, some people get too focused on wealth (which leads to blaming) and forget that these are real people in a horrifying situation.

It's just so sad all around.

You probably don't but it will mosyt likely be possible to carefully evacuate the passengers.

I’m not sure if this interview has been posted already, but it’s an interesting watch from a gentleman who went on a dive last year.

He says things going wrong are the norm.

My apologies if it has been posted, the thread is quite fast moving.

Identity of 2 more passengers reported on BBC:

One of those on the sub is Shahzada Dawood, along with his son Suleman. Dawood belongs to one of Pakistan's richest families. He is a trustee at the SETI Institute.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-65953941

Yes it has been linked already - but then again a couple of other articles have been linked several times as well

I do somewhat agree that the organisers of truly frivolous adventures, such as this, should have to sign something to state that they acknowledge public resources won't be used to rescue them if it all goes shit shaped.

In this Youtube video you see a tour of the sub, claustrophobia overdrive. Also very odd is why this supposedly high-tech, million dollar submarine is literally parked in a sketchy suburban backyard?! You just need to climb a fence to reach it. Not sure what they were filming there but a hangar, bunker or TV studio would make more sense.