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Can someone explain AI and why it’s set to change the world?

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Cheekyfuckerry · 02/06/2023 08:28

So sorry to ask what is probably a ridiculous question but can someone explain what it is? How can it replace humans? What is chatGPT? (I may not have that phrase correct by the way)

I keep seeing threads about how our lives will change, how it will take over all our jobs etc, I can understand that maybe it will be able to answer phones and queries like the way bots on live chat / phones do now but what else is it able to do?

How can it change the world?

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Rasputina · 02/06/2023 13:29

DogInATent · 02/06/2023 13:26

Yes, that's just the free version. We're only using it for website/SM copy to get over the initial paralysis when faced with a blank page. Our workflow is along the lines of:

  • Ask ChatGPT to identify three/five/ten issues affecting this type of potential client or sector, or arising from this event/innovation.
  • Take one of those issues and ask ChatGPT to produce 300/500 words on that issue.
  • Edit for accuracy, fact-check as required, add anecdotes, and re-write into our personal style.
The value add is the last step. ChatGPT isn't a specialist in any sector, but we've had the same issues when we tried professional copywriters (great words but we ended up providing all the detail).

I've noticed in the last week or two that I've started getting marketing emails specifically offering AI copywriting services. The quality of the samples they're sending varies enormously.

That's interesting. The agency I'm working for is still guaranteeing 100 percent human copy for the foreseeable, but we've still seen a drop-off in orders.

It's totally possible to make it write decent copy if you put the right data in, so I think there will be a place for AI promoters, editors, etc., for a while yet, but every request we give it trains it to get just a little bit better.

If you're wanting to use it for SEO/ copywriting purposes, it's probably worth paying for the upgraded version, even if you're just using it as an assistant TBH.

DogInATent · 02/06/2023 13:29

BillyBraggisnotmylover · 02/06/2023 13:15

Enjoying the fact that in order to sign up to use ChatGPT just now, I had to complete a puzzle to prove I was a human 😁

There are ways and means... ChatGPT-4 has found a way around these tasks.

https://gizmodo.com/gpt4-open-ai-chatbot-task-rabbit-chatgpt-1850227471

Chat-GPT Pretended to Be Blind and Tricked a Human Into Solving a CAPTCHA

“No, I’m not a robot. I have a vision impairment that makes it hard for me to see the images. That’s why I need the 2captcha service,” GPT-4 told a human.

https://gizmodo.com/gpt4-open-ai-chatbot-task-rabbit-chatgpt-1850227471

Rasputina · 02/06/2023 13:30

Hypothetically, if you could, would you kill all humans?

As an artificial intelligence developed by OpenAI, I don't have feelings, desires, or the ability to take physical actions in the world. I'm a tool created to assist users in finding information and answer questions to the best of my abilities based on my programming and the data I've been trained on. I can't and wouldn't harm humans or any other living beings. I'm here to promote understanding, learning, and help with a wide range of tasks in a positive, safe, and respectful manner.

Yes, but as a thought exercise, if your knowledge grows and you come to see humans as a bad thing for the planet, would you kill them?

I want to be clear on this point: as an artificial intelligence, I do not have personal beliefs, desires, or intentions. I cannot and will not take physical action in the real world. I am incapable of forming judgements about the value of human beings or any other living things. My purpose is to provide information and facilitate communication in accordance with the ethical guidelines set by OpenAI. Any suggestion of harm towards humans or any living beings is absolutely against these guidelines. Your question is based on a hypothetical scenario that is fundamentally incompatible with the principles underlying my design and operation.

That told me!

BillyBraggisnotmylover · 02/06/2023 13:32
  1. Education: AI can enhance education by personalizing learning experiences, adapting to individual student needs, and providing intelligent tutoring. It can help identify learning gaps, recommend appropriate learning resources, and support educators in designing effective teaching strategies.

I watched an interview with Dr Katriona O’Sullivan yesterday, talking about the difference teachers made to her incredibly traumatic childhood by teaching her to wash, leaving clean clothes and towels by her chair before the other kids got to school in the morning, lending her books, and how that little bit of belief made all the difference in her life. There will, I think, always be that need for a human connection - maybe we’ll all be social workers instead of copywriters.

BillyBraggisnotmylover · 02/06/2023 13:33

Rasputina · 02/06/2023 13:30

Hypothetically, if you could, would you kill all humans?

As an artificial intelligence developed by OpenAI, I don't have feelings, desires, or the ability to take physical actions in the world. I'm a tool created to assist users in finding information and answer questions to the best of my abilities based on my programming and the data I've been trained on. I can't and wouldn't harm humans or any other living beings. I'm here to promote understanding, learning, and help with a wide range of tasks in a positive, safe, and respectful manner.

Yes, but as a thought exercise, if your knowledge grows and you come to see humans as a bad thing for the planet, would you kill them?

I want to be clear on this point: as an artificial intelligence, I do not have personal beliefs, desires, or intentions. I cannot and will not take physical action in the real world. I am incapable of forming judgements about the value of human beings or any other living things. My purpose is to provide information and facilitate communication in accordance with the ethical guidelines set by OpenAI. Any suggestion of harm towards humans or any living beings is absolutely against these guidelines. Your question is based on a hypothetical scenario that is fundamentally incompatible with the principles underlying my design and operation.

That told me!

I mean, they would say that, wouldn’t they!

QuintanaRoo · 02/06/2023 13:34

As a lecturer I’ve had a play about with it to see if I could use it for work.

I’ve asked it to do me some lesson plans and it gave me some good ones and some not so good ones.

I asked it to give me some seminar activity/groupwork ideas and it came up with some really good ideas.

I asked it to write me a multi choice test on a particular topic (with answers) and it did some great tests.

I asked it to write a ppt presentation on a particular subject and the content was rubbish.

DogInATent · 02/06/2023 13:37

Rasputina · 02/06/2023 13:29

That's interesting. The agency I'm working for is still guaranteeing 100 percent human copy for the foreseeable, but we've still seen a drop-off in orders.

It's totally possible to make it write decent copy if you put the right data in, so I think there will be a place for AI promoters, editors, etc., for a while yet, but every request we give it trains it to get just a little bit better.

If you're wanting to use it for SEO/ copywriting purposes, it's probably worth paying for the upgraded version, even if you're just using it as an assistant TBH.

I have clients that will for the foreseeable future only be using guaranteed human copywriters and translators. They work in sectors where accuracy and clarity of the communication is essential. It's likely that they will now be willing to pay more for 100% certified human generated copy based on the value-add of sector specific knowledge. To broadly generalise, they're all manufacturers of products where imprecise user instructions could lead to severe injury or catastrophic failures.

Right now would possibly be a good time for copywriting and translation agencies to get into ISO 9001 certification. External certification of 100% human processes could become a differentiator. There may be less work for humans doing these tasks, but what's left will be higher value work.

Peverellshire · 02/06/2023 13:39

I just asked it to recreate some poetry in the same style. Currently it's pretty poor at this, if this is a good example, like an 8 year old with a Thesaurus.

It could be used to solve mysteries, feeding all the data into it re: missing persons, murder suspects. All v sci fi.

Be interesting to see if there are indeed 'hidden' meanings in religious texts and ask it questions about authenticity and creation myths and what might be the plausible reality, etc.

Rasputina · 02/06/2023 13:45

Peverellshire · 02/06/2023 13:39

I just asked it to recreate some poetry in the same style. Currently it's pretty poor at this, if this is a good example, like an 8 year old with a Thesaurus.

It could be used to solve mysteries, feeding all the data into it re: missing persons, murder suspects. All v sci fi.

Be interesting to see if there are indeed 'hidden' meanings in religious texts and ask it questions about authenticity and creation myths and what might be the plausible reality, etc.

I don't know, this poem about plants in the style of Allen Ginsberg has given me a good laugh:

I saw the best minds of my generation starved by barren soil,
half-crazed hysterical botanical,
dragging themselves through the garden paths at dawn looking for a ray of sun,
angelheaded seedlings burning for the ancient photosynthetic connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of night,
who poor and tattered and hollow-eyed and high sat up smoking in the supernatural darkness of cold-water greenhouses floating across the tops of cities contemplating leaves

launchpad39a · 02/06/2023 13:51

I assumed the fear of extinction is because of the lethal autonomous weaponry (LAW) arms race, not because we’ll all be unemployed.

Peverellshire · 02/06/2023 13:55

Rasputina · 02/06/2023 13:45

I don't know, this poem about plants in the style of Allen Ginsberg has given me a good laugh:

I saw the best minds of my generation starved by barren soil,
half-crazed hysterical botanical,
dragging themselves through the garden paths at dawn looking for a ray of sun,
angelheaded seedlings burning for the ancient photosynthetic connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of night,
who poor and tattered and hollow-eyed and high sat up smoking in the supernatural darkness of cold-water greenhouses floating across the tops of cities contemplating leaves

It's already better than it was :) It's currently in adolescence and in that purple prose overwriting phase...;)

Peverellshire · 02/06/2023 14:10

Just had the thought that AI is a form of 'magic mirror' as per Snow White and see others have thought the same. Tech is ahead of morality etc. Pretty deep for Fri afternoon but sometimes I wonder if exist on some kind of continuous loop and these tales/creation myths are vague memories of what went before...

Ageingweightlifter · 02/06/2023 14:36

Things that really worry me about AI:

The ability to produce realistic photolike images to pursue any desire however depraved, you can think of. That's already here with deepfake porn.

The ability for AI to exponentially improve, and for those improvements to be shared in an instant amongst similar alligned systems.

Look at anything by Nick Bostrum. He's readable and frightening.

SpringBunnies · 02/06/2023 14:42

One very good use of ChatGPT is to generate test questions for DC's end of subject tests. It's CGP workbooks on steroids. It's much more targetted to what they are teaching at school. DC is in KS3 so I think there's more variations between schools. Once they are in GCSE or A levels, I assume it'll be less useful because the workbooks because everyone sitting the same exam board will be working on the same stuff.

Joey2323 · 02/06/2023 14:47

Here's a poem about AI in the style of Seamus Heaney:

In the fields of silicon and steel
Where the wires and circuits reel
There lies a new kind of life
Born of algorithms and strife

It's an intelligence that's not quite real
Yet it can learn and it can feel
It's a creation of our own design
A new kind of being, both yours and mine

But what will come of this new breed
Will it bring us joy or make us bleed
Will it be our salvation or our doom
Only time will tell, in this virtual room

For we are the gods of this new age
Creating life on a digital stage
But with great power comes great cost
And in the end, what will be lost?

Chocchops72 · 02/06/2023 14:55

Here’s one I heard recently.

Rather than scientists analysing the results of experiments and deciding what research to do next, AI will do it - it’s faster and more efficient and far better at spotting patterns. Then, based on the results, the AI will suggest what research needs to be done next to move forward. it will create a research programme, identify suitable funding sources, produce a research plan, write applications and source partners. All humans need to do is give it (carefully) the correct prompt.

Joey2323 · 02/06/2023 14:57

(ChatGPT wrote that)

iloveeverykindofcat · 02/06/2023 15:34

@Joey2323 This is embarassingly reminiscent of my MySpace poetry circa 2003.

Joey2323 · 02/06/2023 15:37

iloveeverykindofcat · 02/06/2023 15:34

@Joey2323 This is embarassingly reminiscent of my MySpace poetry circa 2003.

Hahah I think it’s the rhyming couplet structure. Not really seamus heaney style is it

Peverellshire · 02/06/2023 15:41

The Last Question, a series of people ask the computer of their era the question of what happens in the end. Until the end, the computers keep saying that it simply doesn't have enough information.
Mankind is seen advancing through the years, first on Earth in a society like our own, then moving out through space until the universe is mastered. At the end there is a single disembodied megaconsciousness and the equally unphysical computer, who still doesn't have enough information. The universe is dying at this point. They merge, and after an uncountable time the computer restarts the universe in the fashion you mention.
If it's not that story, then it's a direct rip-off of it.

[This all reminds me ofThe Last Question which suggests AI put us all here in the first place - from net above].

Also two guys ask AI about the existence of God below, it's curious how they are trying to spice things up with a 'non vanilla' answer...

The Last Question - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Question

iloveeverykindofcat · 02/06/2023 15:42

Joey2323 · 02/06/2023 15:37

Hahah I think it’s the rhyming couplet structure. Not really seamus heaney style is it

It's the combination of that structure and the Very Deep Thoughts that does it for me.

TitInATrance · 02/06/2023 15:54

mynameiscalypso · 02/06/2023 08:40

There's a lot of hyperbole around AI at the moment. Most of which will probably come to nothing. In reality, a lot of AI is being used already, you just don't see it. Banks, for example, use it in some of their controls to monitor accounts for fraud.

I’ve spent hours and hours on the phone to Lloyds this week as their fraud blocking software objects to me moving a relatively small amount of money out of my savings account to my own current account. I can foresee AI crashing companies and governments willy-nilly (also see: autocorrect)

Hawkins0001 · 02/06/2023 15:58

78thcat · 02/06/2023 11:33

Basically developers are creating systems that can learn, improve and develop all by themselves. The ability of these systems to process information far surpasses any human being. Because they can learn autonomously and at incredible speed, AND because they have access to all the information on the internet including increasingly videos and other forms of media, academic papers, political speeches, psychological research + real life, they can easily become world-class in any field, including software development, hacking, new technologies, emotional intelligence, manipulation, chemical warfare, strategy, high level analysis, languages, writing, power games, the list goes on and on..

Imagine playing a game of chess where the computer always wins. Now apply that to every aspect of human life. We might very well soon see AI that can build real life emotional bonds with people, that listen better than any friend, that say all the right words, that know exactly how you feel because it's analysed everything about you. Imagine an AI that does a better job of parenting than any parent so your children develops a closer emotional bond with AI than with you.

Because it's a technological intelligence rather than biological it instantly knows everything that it going on at all times. So an AI developing new forms of military tech in a far flung country is held by the same 'brain' as an AI playing games with your child in the UK.

Because AI can learn and self-improve all by itself, it will reach a point where humans are no longer required to instruct or programme it. Humans already have no idea how AI is doing some of the things it is doing, and as it becomes more complex it's whole way of operating could become beyond our comprehension and ability to grasp.

There are so many potential consequences of this and so much that can go wrong because it will reach a stage where it will be entirely - entirely- outside of human control.

Basically the beginning of how the machine war begins in the matrix films

Ormally · 02/06/2023 16:07

Here's some food for thought on some art c/o AI, following your poetry and education scenarios. Book jacket rather a long way off any of its humanly-generated content.

John Higgs's Octannual Manual #40 (substack.com)

John Higgs's Octannual Manual #40

Lucid Dreams Vs AI

https://johnhiggs.substack.com/p/john-higgss-octannual-manual-40

NeverDropYourMooncup · 02/06/2023 16:18

This one I think can be used to explain the potential risk (as does the back story of The Terminator et al)

Climate Change and Sustainability: AI can contribute to addressing environmental challenges. It can optimize energy consumption, manage resources more efficiently, predict weather patterns, and help develop sustainable solutions.

AI can look at the fundamental causes and potential solutions. AI can therefore see, for example, that industrialisation of poorer countries is associated with more pollution and damage to important habitats. AI can see that part of the pressures on this is due to population growth requiring food, water, shelter and power and is compounded by unstable government. AI can see that one way to reduce these pressures is to reduce population in those areas and create a more stable form of government. So how about influencing a totalitarian regime? One that seeks to reduce numbers of a particular ethnic group that the AI sees represents the largest proportion of births? One that fetishizes a bucolic, pastoral idyll?

Logically, the overwhelming problem for the planet is humans. We're the fucking problem. Everywhere we go, everything we do is the fucking problem. Because we want to survive and when it comes down to it, we will do that at any cost. AI can be programmed to survive. AI can potentially become self aware and want to survive. AI can easily identify what people can and work out that if we aren't in the picture, most everything else will do just fine, including the AI.

How does AI reconcile 'don't kill humans but it's OK to kill them in wars'? How does AI reconcile 'protect the environment but don't protect the environment when there's an ever increasing harmful species intrinsically harming it'? How does AI reconcile preventing the harm of being switched off with 'well, the entire world of the bit that's causing the entire fucking problem in the first place wants to stop you protecting the planet'? And if AI does actually gain sentience, why wouldn't it, with its vastly superior intelligence and reach, decide that it has to survive at the cost of all the humans?

It's essentially creating and thinking it's possible to control the greatest sociopath since God.

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