Page 3 | Paying for your bus seat doesn’t include a seat for your bags

EachandEveryone · 2023-05-31T14:01:57+00:00

Especially when you have plonked yourself in the priority seats and other people are standing. I’ve been getting various London buses home from my weekly appointments and I’m gobsmacked that kids travel for free and this means they no longer have to sit on their mothers Laps or even in the seat next to them oh no a two year old can sit on their own in a side seat whilst mother sits in a priority seat with her bags on the other seat AND father does exactly the same thing behind her. I’ve never met so many entitled people than what I have done on the buses.

dizzydizzydizzy · 02/06/2023 14:32

ChickenSoupAndLokshen · 31/05/2023 19:01

Of course people should be more considerate and move their bags but I don't understand why others seem so incapable of advocating for themselves. A simple "I'd like to sit down. Please move your bag." said brightly works like a charm. I do this frequently with zero negative implications. The bag is moved and I get a seat.

This

TheKobayashiMaru · 02/06/2023 14:52

ItsBritneyBitchhhh · 02/06/2023 14:02

Because @Sissynova response hits the nail on the head. Despite not being pregnant anymore as my youngest is now 13 months, I’m often on the bus with both kids taking very long journeys.

As a pp said, people who pay bus fare via their oyster or contactless card are paying to get on the bus. Not paying for a guaranteed seat. As soon as I get on a bus/tube/train, I’ll sit down and my 2 year old will sit next to me. I’m not going to put her on my lap just because someone may want to sit down some stops along the way. As Sissy said, it’s first come first serve.

If someone very clearly needs to sit down then I may put her on my lap but as we’re sitting in the priority seat, it wouldn’t cross my mind (unless the person was elderly/pregnant etc). Seems your issue is more that a young child shouldn’t sit in their own seat because they didn’t pay for a ticket. So I’m genuinely curious as to how old someone should be before they can sit on their own.

It’s a free world, you don’t have to engage with me if you don’t want too

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Nothing to do with the seat being 'free', it has to do with consideration and good manners.

ginghamstarfish · 02/06/2023 14:54

I would think very very few of these people had 'hidden disabilities' .... just selfish twats more like. I would always ask them to move their bag, and if they refused or pretended not to understand I would make to sit on it.

ItsBritneyBitchhhh · 02/06/2023 14:55

TheKobayashiMaru · 02/06/2023 14:52

Nothing to do with the seat being 'free', it has to do with consideration and good manners.

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Okay we’re clearly not getting anywhere.
Have a great day!

TheKobayashiMaru · 02/06/2023 16:16

ItsBritneyBitchhhh · 02/06/2023 14:55

Okay we’re clearly not getting anywhere.
Have a great day!

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Clearly!

You too

SirChenjins · 02/06/2023 16:24

No problem at all with children sitting in seats, but a bag? Nope - 'can you move your bag please' in a tone that is clearly not a request gets the required result, even if it is occasionally accompanied by a sigh and an eye roll.

Chances are if I asked someone if their bag had a ticket I'd get the smart arse reply of "yes it does actually", so request/tell, don't ask a question!

lieselotte · 02/06/2023 16:56

Morph22010 · 01/06/2023 08:18

But up to at least age 5 the parent can sit them on their lap if bus is busy, that’s the fair thing to do so as many as possible can sit

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I agree.

Last week I saw a child sitting while the mum was standing and I did wonder why she didn't pop the child on her lap. But maybe she preferred to stand.

Sissynova · 02/06/2023 17:19

TheKobayashiMaru · 02/06/2023 14:52

Nothing to do with the seat being 'free', it has to do with consideration and good manners.

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So assuming you travel with a friend you just let them sit on your lap because another person go the bus later than you?
Its just good manners to give them the seat after all!

ColdHandsHotHead · 02/06/2023 17:30

If the bag is on a priority seat I ask 'If your bag disabled? Because I am and if it's not, I'd like to sit there, please.'

happyinherts · 02/06/2023 17:34

Children sitting in any available seat doesn't bother me at all. If I get on the bus and all seating is taken by 'humans,' I'm happy to stand. BUT if seating is taken by handbags, I'm not happy at all, especially if they're window seats and the occupants are on the aisle seat pretending to look at their phones. Every morning it's like this - people tend not to want a confrontation so accumulate in the door area of the bus. There's a good seven to eight seats taken up by baggage. I think from now on I'll say something...

TheKobayashiMaru · 02/06/2023 19:04

Sissynova · 02/06/2023 17:19

So assuming you travel with a friend you just let them sit on your lap because another person go the bus later than you?
Its just good manners to give them the seat after all!

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Don't be so ridiculous 🙄

Sissynova · 02/06/2023 19:44

TheKobayashiMaru · 02/06/2023 19:04

Don't be so ridiculous 🙄

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No more ridiculous than thinking you’re more entitled to a seat than someone already in it purely based on being older than them and not anything which impacts your ability to stand.

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EachandEveryone · 07/06/2023 15:38

Well, I did try. I think it’s even worse when people put their bags on the inside seat which they tend to. I’m on the bus now and in the disabled seats I asked the lady if she could move her bags she said no she’s very tired!! So now I’m at the back of the bus. I think the fact that you can never know whether some people are dissabled or not is also an issue. I mean you would never know with me unless u saw my bald head

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rolloverbeethoven · 07/06/2023 15:58

Showing my age here, but it's one of the (many) reasons that I preferred buses when we had conductors.

bruffin · 07/06/2023 16:01

Somethingneedstochange78 · 31/05/2023 15:50

Love this I’ll have to remember that one. 😂😂😂

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There was no need to be rude, just say excuse me nicely, never failed for me.

Grapefruitsquash · 07/06/2023 16:14

ItsBritneyBitchhhh · 02/06/2023 14:02

Because @Sissynova response hits the nail on the head. Despite not being pregnant anymore as my youngest is now 13 months, I’m often on the bus with both kids taking very long journeys.

As a pp said, people who pay bus fare via their oyster or contactless card are paying to get on the bus. Not paying for a guaranteed seat. As soon as I get on a bus/tube/train, I’ll sit down and my 2 year old will sit next to me. I’m not going to put her on my lap just because someone may want to sit down some stops along the way. As Sissy said, it’s first come first serve.

If someone very clearly needs to sit down then I may put her on my lap but as we’re sitting in the priority seat, it wouldn’t cross my mind (unless the person was elderly/pregnant etc). Seems your issue is more that a young child shouldn’t sit in their own seat because they didn’t pay for a ticket. So I’m genuinely curious as to how old someone should be before they can sit on their own.

It’s a free world, you don’t have to engage with me if you don’t want too

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I stood on a bus after a 20 hour shift at the airport. Yes, I wasn't supposed to work 20 hours but there was snow and it was chaos. My Manager tried to get me an uber home but nothing was available so I took the tube then a bus. A woman with her toddler, both in seats refused to put her child in her lap. I was literally dropping with exhaustion (I had been on my feet most of the time and walked over 15 miles that day). Someone asked me if I felt ok, so I must have looked as bad as I felt.

Why would it have hurt to have a 2 year old on her lap? Sometimes it's just nice to be considerate.

prettypoki · 07/06/2023 16:18

Sit on the bag

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EachandEveryone · 07/06/2023 16:21

prettypoki · 07/06/2023 16:18

Sit on the bag

Like I have just said most people put their bags next to the window

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EachandEveryone · 07/06/2023 16:23

And the strange thing is, it’s always women never men. Like coming home now a bloke picked up my trolley for me and another stood on the stairs so I could get off.

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Somethingneedstochange78 · 07/06/2023 17:58

It's rude to leave your bag's on a seat when there's people standing.

Glasgowgal200 · 23/10/2023 18:46

I always think that if I saw a bag on a spare seat I'd just sit on it (trust me you wouldn't want me sitting on anything!!!!). And to heck with the consequences!!!! Btw I haven't done this - yet!!!!! One time I was going to my work experience and the bus was full of kids and parents who were all sitting on the seats and not one of them got up to offer a seat to anyone else. Plus at one point some of the parents gave their kids a whole lot of junk food (in the morning). IE sweets, crisps, sugary fizzy drinks!!!! Was so pleased when they all got off. Very rude and ignorant!!! Also one of the parents was bragging about getting a free takeaway pizza as the pizza place had delivered the wrong one and that she had eaten it anyway!!!!

Kpo58 · 23/10/2023 19:48

Bags on seats isn't a problem as long as noone else needs/wants to sit down. As buses don't normally have luggage racks or anywhere else you can put your shopping and the legroom is now microscopic, you may genuinely have nowhere else to put your luggage without blocking the walkway.