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PilatesAndPaddleboards · 29/05/2023 09:52

PerfectYear321 · 28/05/2023 23:27

Hopefully Piers Morgan, Jeremy Clarkson, Jeremy Kyle and Richard Madeley will be taken down too. I'm offended by those guys being served up for family viewing

This!

PilatesAndPaddleboards · 29/05/2023 09:53

FMLWTF · 28/05/2023 23:58

Dr Ranj is very pro-trans. He is of the “transwomen are women” mindset. Bless him. He should stick to songs about poo.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Sunflowers80 · 30/05/2023 08:55

Going around twitter so not sure if it's true but looks like his real account. That poor boy, hardly stud. Barely out of childhood but if this true no one was safeguarding this boy.

Dr Ranj post re: culture on This Morning
Sunflowers80 · 30/05/2023 08:56

I have a feeling Rylan was right when he said stuff would be coming out and it's more than we know so far.

HeavenonEarth · 30/05/2023 09:14

Is that what Dr Ranj wrote about that young guy? Is that the guy who was having a relationship with Philip Schofield? Highly inappropriate thing to say about a colleague if so. Not keen on the pose either.

RedToothBrush · 30/05/2023 09:40

To be fair to Dr Ranj on that, society does need to have conversations about what you do with paedophiles.

Do you execute them?
Do you jail them for short periods in the hope of rehabilitation and if you do so how do you rehabilitate them?
Do you jail them for life?
Is it an illness? Is it an innate sexual preference like other sexual preferences or it often trauma based?
If it's trauma based is it fair to lock up victims or to look to treat them?

Given that Dr Ranj is a doctor he will come at this from a particular position about how humans may be broken in various ways and medicine is about looking for ways to fix them. That's a fair argument as part of a wider debate.

You CAN NOT say he is being a paedophile apologist nor sympathiser by trying to start a conversation along these lines. Even if you disagree with the point he makes.

I don't know the answer to this and I won't defend or criticise Dr Ranjs comments either way on this. It's a subject that is awkward and no one wants to go near for obvious reasons. But we really should.

My problem here is more that Dr Ranj has gone on record saying he tried to whistleblow.

And what is happening is the classic response to that where the entire character of the whistleblower becomes the subject over and above what they were whistleblowing about. That puts off other whistleblowers.

It's an unhealthy culture.

I am most definitely not a fan of Dr Ranj. He has said some things I really disagree with.

But trying to raise a debate about what to do with paedophiles does not make you a paedophile. And that's what the insinuation here is. And the timing of that insinuation is very obvious in terms of its intentions.

It's not cool.

Sunflowers80 · 30/05/2023 09:52

RedToothBrush · 30/05/2023 09:40

To be fair to Dr Ranj on that, society does need to have conversations about what you do with paedophiles.

Do you execute them?
Do you jail them for short periods in the hope of rehabilitation and if you do so how do you rehabilitate them?
Do you jail them for life?
Is it an illness? Is it an innate sexual preference like other sexual preferences or it often trauma based?
If it's trauma based is it fair to lock up victims or to look to treat them?

Given that Dr Ranj is a doctor he will come at this from a particular position about how humans may be broken in various ways and medicine is about looking for ways to fix them. That's a fair argument as part of a wider debate.

You CAN NOT say he is being a paedophile apologist nor sympathiser by trying to start a conversation along these lines. Even if you disagree with the point he makes.

I don't know the answer to this and I won't defend or criticise Dr Ranjs comments either way on this. It's a subject that is awkward and no one wants to go near for obvious reasons. But we really should.

My problem here is more that Dr Ranj has gone on record saying he tried to whistleblow.

And what is happening is the classic response to that where the entire character of the whistleblower becomes the subject over and above what they were whistleblowing about. That puts off other whistleblowers.

It's an unhealthy culture.

I am most definitely not a fan of Dr Ranj. He has said some things I really disagree with.

But trying to raise a debate about what to do with paedophiles does not make you a paedophile. And that's what the insinuation here is. And the timing of that insinuation is very obvious in terms of its intentions.

It's not cool.

No way, no one touches a child in that way or grooms them and gets off the hook with mental health issues or help. They are evil and know that children are vulnerable and impressionable and veey innocent.Touch them you and God help you. Not using my taxes to help this scum. Plus you'll find doctors that disagree with his statement so using his doctor title doesn't get him off then hook..

RedToothBrush · 30/05/2023 09:58

Sunflowers80 · 30/05/2023 09:52

No way, no one touches a child in that way or grooms them and gets off the hook with mental health issues or help. They are evil and know that children are vulnerable and impressionable and veey innocent.Touch them you and God help you. Not using my taxes to help this scum. Plus you'll find doctors that disagree with his statement so using his doctor title doesn't get him off then hook..

That's your opinion and that's the counter argument.

As I say I am not arguing either way.

But you can't just dictate this without having public consensus and debate which includes the full range of views from the most lax to the most strict.

Because we live in a liberal democracy where debate is essential. Debating things includes difficult conversations and views we don't agree with to reach a consensus or to shift a consensus.

And I will stress once again, that saying this does not make you a paedophile apologist whether you like what he says or not. And to suggest he is in this way, at this time is about smearing him and his character because he is a whistleblower which is not ok either. It's a deliberate misrepresentation.

Sunflowers80 · 30/05/2023 10:17

RedToothBrush · 30/05/2023 09:58

That's your opinion and that's the counter argument.

As I say I am not arguing either way.

But you can't just dictate this without having public consensus and debate which includes the full range of views from the most lax to the most strict.

Because we live in a liberal democracy where debate is essential. Debating things includes difficult conversations and views we don't agree with to reach a consensus or to shift a consensus.

And I will stress once again, that saying this does not make you a paedophile apologist whether you like what he says or not. And to suggest he is in this way, at this time is about smearing him and his character because he is a whistleblower which is not ok either. It's a deliberate misrepresentation.

No one is smearing him. Just think it's wrong for him as a TV child presenter to say this. To be honest. Only last week I was defending Schofield and saying the same thing on here that it was just rumours and even if the man was young it's not illegal, in my innocence I thought around 25 and so I dismissed the rumours 🙄 yet others were saying exactly what has come out now and the young man in question was quite young when introduced to schofield. So i just don't know anymore

Sunflowers80 · 30/05/2023 10:22

I'm not saying he is a paedophile either, I'm saying if he knew and defends schofield/these type of entities and witj him being a child presenter then its morally wrong and would have been his duty to safeguard the boy. That's all I'm saying.

CornedBeef451 · 30/05/2023 11:20

I used to like Dr Ranj and bought his puberty book for boys for DS. Luckily I read it before handing it over as it had a section on gender nonsense so I had to heavily edit it before DS read it.

RedToothBrush · 30/05/2023 12:16

Another response:

Ranj Singh AT DrRanj
It’s sad that there are people out there trying to cause damage and insinuate things from a harmless picture.

So here are some facts:

Matt and I worked together at This Morning. He was 21 when we took this picture at the studio. And it was obviously taken as a joke.

I’ve noticed people posting news articles where a journalist took a tweet from 10 years ago in isolation, completely out of context from the wider discussion, and used it to imply something else.

This is inaccurate and unfair. And those comments were clarified years ago.

Wobblybitssaggytits · 30/05/2023 12:17

Ahhhh I remember when he was on CBeebies with that dr programme. Seems a lovely guy

LlynTegid · 30/05/2023 12:18

I'm more inclined to accept his version being nearer to reality than that from Philip Schofield, even though I disagree with some of his comments and his views on transgender issues.

Wobblybitssaggytits · 30/05/2023 12:19

Whaaaat what was this??

Sunflowers80 · 30/05/2023 12:28

I'm not sure what this is about either but goodness me is he really saying that and putting it in the same sentence as being gay? Of course there is nothing wrong with being gay. To be honest I'm not really not sure why they are digging up old stuff on twitter but this DR who tweeted this is an NHS GP. Dr Ranj is a child presenter as well he should know better and this is very unprofessional comment of his. It's making me question the rot at ITV now.

Dr Ranj post re: culture on This Morning
BeReet · 30/05/2023 13:58

ehb102 · 28/05/2023 21:10

Dr Ranj lost my affection when he signed an anti-womans rights letter.

Same here, I think he's a self-serving moron

ScribblingPixie · 30/05/2023 15:18

I don't think that caption's ok - labelling a young man in a junior position on the show where you're one of the 'stars' as sexually hot and putting it on the internet. Ok, he says it's a joke but the power imbalance usually means 'jokes' are one-sided.

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