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Found out I’m mixed race not white

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NewHeritage · 26/05/2023 14:51

Long story short but an online dna test has discovered one of my parents isn’t biologically my parent. I have found the name of my biological parent and also talked to other “new” relatives online after making contact with them.

I now have a slightly daft question……I don’t know what “race” my parent was. I mean I do, but I don’t know the name/label/category. They were South American, from (British) Guyana and an indigenous American. So what race are indigenous Americans from South America?

Not Latino as British Guyana I don’t think is a Latino country. Not Afro-Caribbean as they weren’t from Africa or the Caribbean (though there is some African ancestry in the mix according to my dna results which makes sense as there were a lot of African slaves in Guyana in the past. So my dna results are like 50% European, 5% African and 45% Indo-american. But is indo-american a race?

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WhisperingAutistic · 26/05/2023 18:35

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 26/05/2023 16:08

But the OP hasn’t faced any ‘difficulties’ of that sort, she didn’t even know she was ‘mixed race’ until she a laboratory test told her.

I find this determined divisiveness really very sad.

I can trace my ancestry on both sides literally just to the British Isles but think you are talking absolute crap.
Determined divisiveness? The woman has just found out her dad is not her dad and her heritage is from another country altogether!
That's fascinating! Wanting to know about your culture is not divisive, its natural.
I'd want to know absolutely everything. How exciting OP!

Kingaling · 26/05/2023 18:36

All of the Guyanese people I know consider themselves west indian caribbean.

denim1700 · 26/05/2023 18:41

Mumof4alsoabonus · 26/05/2023 17:42

I found a whole Italian family when I did it. Mine was a grandparent rather than a parent so not the same, but still fairly shocking. Only 15% Irish despite living here! Definitely has got me interested in my background though, then again it’s probably people like this who do the tests.
I hope you can get the answers you want.

Wow. My results were as expected but 23andme relatives revealed I have a distant Welsh relative who is pretty much everything under the sun but Welsh. Claims she had no idea. Some English but otherwise very exotic results, small amounts from dozens of countries across multiple continents. I don't understand how that's even possible. Mixed-race US and Australian ancestors who later move to Britain? Adoption?

The funniest was a distant American relative who strongly identifies with his Scottish roots. Think ridiculous cliché, in a 'kilt' (it was a tartan skirt!), Burns Night celebrations, patriotic posting on Scots this and that on FB... zero Scots ancestry. He has a very small amount of distant English ancestry, otherwise wholly German.

I didn't think that stereotype was real, I was laughing so hard. I sincerely hope he wasn't too crushed!

Wakandian · 26/05/2023 18:47

My paternal ancestors were indentured slaves from India.

*Correcting my typo - indentured ‘labourers’

My other ancestors were African slaves and Scottish slave masters.

sheworemellowyellow · 26/05/2023 18:48

WheresTheForum · 26/05/2023 18:17

Race is a social construct. It’s completely different to sex.

You cannot be serious?!

SureJanSure · 26/05/2023 18:56

MwahHaHa · 26/05/2023 16:05

This is both wrong AND ridiculous.

Oh race doesn't matter, we're all the same ,its ackshully really simple...... tell me you're a white middle class person living in the country of your birth without telling me....

This isn't specific to white. Race really doesn't matter unless you accept that it does or want it to or are part of the crowd and can't see clearly on your own.

SureJanSure · 26/05/2023 18:58

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 26/05/2023 16:08

But the OP hasn’t faced any ‘difficulties’ of that sort, she didn’t even know she was ‘mixed race’ until she a laboratory test told her.

I find this determined divisiveness really very sad.

Agreed. Forced 'struggle life', I'd say.

mathanxiety · 26/05/2023 19:07

Sensibletrousers · 26/05/2023 17:54

My bio father was adopted just after WWII (and looks Southern European/ Mediterranean) so I always wondered what my genetic “make up” would be. People always assume Spanish.

My AncestryDNA came back with an expected 50ish % UK and Northern Europe (my mum is ginger, her mum is French etc). 24% was Southern European, no surprise really due to my dad’s olive skin and dark complexion.

My shock was the 26% Ashkenazi Jewish! I have no idea what that means, or where it’s come from! Wouldn’t know where to start as it’s an ethnicity rather than a geography? Guess I’ll never know!

Congrats on your exciting discovery- I hope you find lots of interesting stories and people!

It means you have one Jewish grandparent. It would be interesting to know how your father survived the Holocaust.

SureJanSure · 26/05/2023 19:07

MwahHaHa · 26/05/2023 16:12

Oh the faux sadness "its so divisive and sad" <daily mail sad face>

I bet you say shit like "I don't see colour" as well.

There's nothing wrong with someone saying 'I don't see colour' unless you're determined to take the phrase literally.

We really shouldn't see colour (not literally); it's a positive thing.

SureJanSure · 26/05/2023 19:10

Igotjelly · 26/05/2023 14:56

Your race is whatever you feel most comfortable describing yourself as. The established categories aren’t exclusive and frankly there are many people who don’t identify with the options offered.

Great. So a white person can describe themselves as black and a black person can be white or mixed race and a mixed race person can be asian, etc.

Transracial. After all it's whatever you feel comfortable identifying as.

mathanxiety · 26/05/2023 19:10

LivingTheDreamNow · 26/05/2023 17:40

mathanxiety

If your parents are white British, your ancestor percentages would most likely look like 99.9% or 100% British or British Isles. The OP's percentages show a different story.

That’s not true, both of my parents were (now deceased) white British but my ancestry results came back as only 31.4% English (no Welsh, Scots or Irish at all.)

The rest of my profile is 40.6% North & West European and 28% Scandinavian.

Fair enough, but that example was just an illustration of another point - that you don't need your father to do a DNA test to know that your birth cert contains a mistake.

SureJanSure · 26/05/2023 19:13

Wakandian · 26/05/2023 17:55

Oh all righty then. That’s that. No need for OP to continue to find out more about her ethnicity or identity then!

There are some shocking (although I really shouldn’t be surprised) and ignorant responses on this thread so far 😑

Race and ethnicity/heritage/culture are not the same thing.

Igotjelly · 26/05/2023 19:14

SureJanSure · 26/05/2023 19:10

Great. So a white person can describe themselves as black and a black person can be white or mixed race and a mixed race person can be asian, etc.

Transracial. After all it's whatever you feel comfortable identifying as.

Refer to my subsequent post, this is not what I meant. I meant that the terms offered (for example in census) are often white-centric and colonialist and not representative of the wide range of ethnicities, hence use the wording you feel best describes you.

MilitantMommieBFArmyLife · 26/05/2023 19:17

Race is a social construct. It’s completely different to sex.

It's a social construct based on people's genotypes and phenotypes...

Paperbagsaremine · 26/05/2023 19:22

Being middle aged I know quite a few people who have tracked down various biological relatives using Ancestry etc and it seems quite reliable as long as you interpret the data properly. One has found several half siblings, another her biological father.

My own parents are who I thought they were, but I got to meet some cousins for the first time ten years ago and had an instant affinity - they reminded me so much of their side of the family and there was that instant familiarity even though we had just met.

To a lot of us it matters, being able to see how we fit into that great human jigsaw. To see "where we came from" - even if it's reflected, at a few removes, in cousins' faces and little mannerisms.

sheworemellowyellow · 26/05/2023 19:24

WheresTheForum · 26/05/2023 19:07

Of course I’m serious. Do some research and educate yourself. This is just one thing you might read.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/race-is-a-social-construct-scientists-argue/

Oh my goodness. I'm embarrassed for you, with your absolute confidence.

Have you read this piece? All the way through? It really doesn't say what you think it says. In fact, it's almost all not at all related to the point you seem to be making (bar the headline, but journalists will be journalists).

BodegaSushi · 26/05/2023 19:38

Redebs · 26/05/2023 16:58

There is only one, human, race.

You have discovered an interesting mixture of heritage in your genes. Congratulations and enjoy finding out about the history and geography of human populations.

Exhausting

TabithaTitanium · 26/05/2023 19:48

WheresTheForum · 26/05/2023 19:07

Of course I’m serious. Do some research and educate yourself. This is just one thing you might read.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/race-is-a-social-construct-scientists-argue/

Oh dear 🤦‍♀️

Papergirl1968 · 26/05/2023 20:00

Sorry to jump on your thread, Op, but I have a question about DNA, ancestry tests and ethnicity if anyway can answer.
If full siblings do the tests, would their ethnicity results be the same?
Or might they vary like physical characteristics vary, e.g. one sibling might have inherited their DM's blue eyes, another their father's height and a third red hair from a grandparent?

tonyatotter · 26/05/2023 20:05

How do you feel about it OP?

If I found out I had some Native American blood in me I think I'd find that rather cool and exciting, makes for a more interesting family history than my lot who havn't moved since at least 1066 and half of them had the first christian name, we've lived in the same farmhouse since 1647, frankly rather dull!

Twilightstarbright · 26/05/2023 20:11

@NewHeritage DH is from British Guyana. He considers himself afro-Caribbean, but that’s what people assume he is if that makes sense but his Ancestry DNA is very mixed. It’s a fascinating country.

sueelleker · 26/05/2023 20:24

Papergirl1968 · 26/05/2023 20:00

Sorry to jump on your thread, Op, but I have a question about DNA, ancestry tests and ethnicity if anyway can answer.
If full siblings do the tests, would their ethnicity results be the same?
Or might they vary like physical characteristics vary, e.g. one sibling might have inherited their DM's blue eyes, another their father's height and a third red hair from a grandparent?

I think it depends on how accurate the tests are. I read an article once, where identical twins took the test and it came up with totally different percentages of ethnicities.https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/dna-ancestry-kits-twins-marketplace-1.4980976

Twins get some 'mystifying' results when they put 5 DNA ancestry kits to the test | CBC News

Last spring, Marketplace host Charlsie Agro and her identical twin sister, Carly, bought DNA ancestry kits from five of the most popular companies in the industry. Find out why some of the results they received left a team of computational biologists a...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/dna-ancestry-kits-twins-marketplace-1.4980976

GulesMeansRed · 26/05/2023 20:36

As I keep saying… ethnicity results really are the horoscopes of genealogy. Bit of fun, not to be taken as gospel.

Shared dna with other test takers is accurate. There is no reason why two siblings would test unless one thought there was different parentage.

Sensibletrousers · 26/05/2023 20:39

mathanxiety · 26/05/2023 19:07

It means you have one Jewish grandparent. It would be interesting to know how your father survived the Holocaust.

He was born in 1946 and adopted in 1947 so after the end of the war. Would have been his bio mum or dad who were Jewish… no luck on Ancestry finding out about either of them.