Does anyone follow non traditional pregnant women/families?

[nubtheoryhhh]

Eg Camilla and Julia are a gay couple who had IVF. They will carry each other's eggs and donor sperm.

Or Stuart and Francis who managed to have two friends who would birth children for them.

I'm so invested in C&J. They seem like a lovely couple. They won't show their child online, however S&F do,

@nubtheoryhhh your comment about you not understanding about same sex relationships bond because of only one carrying

You're not. It's the smugness..

Because in a "normal" heterosexual relationship the man and women relay on each other.

In relationships where sperm or eggs or bought, than there is a choice in female relationships of who should carry. There is also the legal side whereby in some countries than the two people don't have many rights. Eg in the uk the baby has to be adopted from the women giving birth. Her husband and the woman who birthed the baby is on the birth certificate, despite it not being her egg or sperm. So a female couple may decide to have a baby and one female has the baby. If they where to split up, than the women who didn't give birth doesn't have any rights.....

Hope that explains it.

Your post is just confusing. You are jumping from hetero to gay relationships, don’t talk about bonding but the legal rights, and it’s simply not true that the non-birthing mother has no legal parenting rights in the UK.

I’ve seen Stuart and Francis on tiktok. They seem nice although very in your face and loud, they obviously love their child. However, I don’t think it’s right to post your kids on SM and they post a lot. It’s like a game to them instead of parenting. They took exception to some of the terminology on the surrogacy forms, the mother having to refer to the child as her child. Well, tough, she is the child’s mum as she carried him.

In general, I think surrogacy and donor sperm/eggs are unethical, knowing how it messes up so many kids up as they get older. I think it should be banned. Egg/sperm donation and surrogacy is always about adults the adults wants, never about the child.

No idea who the other couple you mentioned are.

@nubtheoryhhh that isn’t correct. If a married or civil partnershiped lesbian couple have a baby via donor sperm (either ivf or artificial insemination) then both women have PR and are named on the birth certificate. If they get divorced custody works exactly as it would for a hetro couple.

@nubtheoryhhh yes, but Rio has a lot of other factors to support his upbringing. Little timmy might be getting breast milk from his mum, but that damp in the corner of the council flat and being weaned on processed chicken nuggets isn't the same as Rio.

Stuart and Francis don't recognise their privilege and abuse their son and future child's privacy.

I agree with the surrogacy points that you have raised. I personally believe that the egg donors were paid by Stuart and Francis.

Are these people on insta or Tik tok? I haven’t joined the latter as I spent too much time on the former . But am very curious after this post

in theory I’d be happy to follow - albeit on insta it does just happen that most of the couples I follow are Hetero

I don't but I know 2 couples in real life, male couple and female couple who have 3 children (single then twins) between them and coparent. Seems a remarkably good arrangement, kids very well adjusted and loved, kids know who their biological parents are etc. but hard to replicate as it's a bit unique (I've man and one woman are siblings)

I don't like people who have money making blogs or insta etc, these people I know are private

Tiktok my love!

On Instagram too.

Ive heard of stuart and francis as they are friends with a former colleague whom I follow so have seen her repost their stuff.

TBH i massively judge people who do MLM, the ones like them that do well are making money of the people losing money on their downline. I also think their first surrogate mum was one of their Arbonne downlines (and she's certainly more junior on the arbonne scale) which gives me the ick as it's like having your bosses' baby.

Wow I had no idea Stuart and Francis did Arbonne!

I find Caitlin and Leah really odd

I've no idea why but I find C and J so annoying. It might be because I miscarried at a similar time and I can't relate at all to sharing every single bit of your miscarriage on social media so it struck a bit of a nerve. But also they make being in love with each other about 98% of their personality. They're like one of those couples that act like they invented falling in love!

I find C and L a bit cringey - too much dancing/jokey stuff (and yes i get that’s pretty much the point of TikTok). I do feel C and J are a bit more ‘real’ if you can say that about influencers; they just come across a bit more grown up.