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Cluborange666 · 15/05/2023 13:28

Hi there, I’d appreciate advice.
We moved into our home five years ago. As you do, we tried to get on with the neighbours. Not overtly but Christmas cards, biscuits at Christmas, polite nods in the street etc.
We were aware that the boundaries needed to be sorted, told the neighbours we’d get on to it but as yet, haven’t. We had to bring round the legal documents when they told us they wanted to chip off the land that actually belonged to us. My husband showed them that it was ours (you can’t tell on my plan but all our property was elevated compared to theirs so it’s a very clean line.) Furthermore all the gas and water pipes run under the ground there so if he had knocked it all off, it would have caused damage to the pipes.
We now have the money to redo all the front and back plus build new walls etc. Unfortunately relations with the neighbours have massively deteriorated. They are one of those families with five cars but parking for one (they could have more on their property if they choose to but do not).
They were continually parking in front of our house and also across our dropped kerb. Now I know they can park outside our house BUT we live in a street where everyone parks outside their own house. So we were getting shouted at by other neighbours for parking in ‘their’ spot. We tried explaining that politely to our neighbours and gave them a couple of bottles of wine as a way of thanks. They drank the wine and continued to park outside our house, even when their own space was free.
In the end, my husband parked in front of their house when there was no space outside ours and the neighbour was very angry and told him to move out of ‘his’ space. Since then he refuses to speak to us and they no longer park in ‘our’ space. There are plenty of other spaces as we live opposite a T junction and that street doesn’t have many houses on it.
Anyway, that was the start of the deterioration of neighbourly relations.
Then there was round two. This was him storing big metal ladders on our side of the boundary. He lends them out to people so they are always clanking and scraping (I work on the other side of the wall) plus I could hear him banging them against the gas pipe. I said nothing for ages then one day I cracked. I went out and politely asked him not to store his ladders there as the continuous banging against the pipes was giving me anxiety. He said he would move them but of course did nothing.
Ever since we have moved there, they have parked over our dropped kerb, usually for drop offs and pick ups. I have not said anything. On Saturday, they had left a car with music blaring out of it, all the doors open and the man and three friends were drinking beer outside their house. They were coming on to my property and making phone calls near my window ( my office looks out onto the street). I went out and asked them to move their car. Big mistake. They were all drunk and the neighbour plus an extremely aggressive friend started screaming at me over and over again. There was two of them shouting at me continuously. I have PTSD and I have felt sick ever since then. It has genuinely traumatised me. They didn’t swear or threaten me physically but I felt very threatened by the screaming and the shouting me down. I didn’t raise my voice and continued to be polite.
So now I feel that we need to get people in to put walls in the correct place. We don’t want their metal gate attached to our house (he goes to work at 4am and it rings through our whole house). The ladders thing against the gas pipes still worries me too.
How would you approach this? The last time we spoke to them about it, they said they would want money to compensate them for having to sort out new gates. I was thinking of writing to them and offering them £300 if they reply in writing to accept it.

Neighbours one
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Cluborange666 · 15/05/2023 13:29

We both own our own properties btw. They moved in 2010. We bought our house in 2018.

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Bonbon21 · 15/05/2023 13:53

To clarify.. is the red hatched area your ground?

Cluborange666 · 15/05/2023 13:56

Hi yes it is.

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Alongtimelonely · 15/05/2023 14:01

out of interest were their gates installed and attached to your house before you moved in?

I wouldn’t go in with an offer of £300

write a letter informing them you have decided to build a wall on the boundary line and will need them to remove their gates that are overlapping the boundary and attached to your house by [date], or if they do not wish to undertake the work, you will have the gates removed on their behalf and will return the gates to them so they can sell/dispose of them.

let them know that you will need them to remove the ladders from our property within two weeks.

apologise in advance for any noise or inconvenience while the work is undertaken

nd that’s all you say for now.

Cluborange666 · 15/05/2023 14:04

Yes they were installed when we bought the house. I knew it was an issue but they had lead us to believe that if we gave them financial compensation then all would be fine. The problem is that neighbourly relations have really deteriorated. I don’t want to be physically near them as I’m still in tears over how much the frightened me.

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TheSnowyOwl · 15/05/2023 14:15

I agree that I wouldn’t offer any money. Tell them you are having the work done and any of their property on your land will be removed and placed back on their land.

Report the recent intimidating behaviour to the non emergency police.

Ponderingwindow · 15/05/2023 14:29

When we moved into our home, our neighbors had completely by mistake misinterpreted the boundary and placed some items on our property. It was due to builder miscommunication. We let them know and with one item gave them time to get it moved. We definitely didn’t offer them any money.

MaggieFS · 15/05/2023 14:40

Alongtimelonely · 15/05/2023 14:01

out of interest were their gates installed and attached to your house before you moved in?

I wouldn’t go in with an offer of £300

write a letter informing them you have decided to build a wall on the boundary line and will need them to remove their gates that are overlapping the boundary and attached to your house by [date], or if they do not wish to undertake the work, you will have the gates removed on their behalf and will return the gates to them so they can sell/dispose of them.

let them know that you will need them to remove the ladders from our property within two weeks.

apologise in advance for any noise or inconvenience while the work is undertaken

nd that’s all you say for now.

This.

Blueypartymummy · 15/05/2023 14:45

I think you might need to get some legal advice about this.

Cluborange666 · 15/05/2023 16:21

Yes I’ve been thinking about a solicitor. I’m just afraid of inflaming their aggression.

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Mykittensmittens · 15/05/2023 16:35

I could be wrong but gates attached to the property needs some sort of consent -
I’m sure it comes under the party wall act. If so your solicitor would have made clear that your property is subject to a party wall agreement when you purchased.

if you don’t have that agreement then the gates would by default be there incorrectly. Go back to the solicitor to double check (or your paperwork, I have a copy of the party wall agreement we have).

why would you need to compensate THEM? It should be the other way round if anything!

if I read the drawing correctly they are storing possessions on your land, so I would indeed get the wall/boundary correctly instated asap.

MaggieFS · 15/05/2023 16:37

Cluborange666 · 15/05/2023 16:21

Yes I’ve been thinking about a solicitor. I’m just afraid of inflaming their aggression.

You can still get legal advice to be sure of where you stand without actually telling them you've done so, until or unless you really need to do so.

gotmychristmasmiracle · 15/05/2023 19:02

Defo don't give them money and get a property solicitor to look over this problem and give advice how to move forward.

gotmychristmasmiracle · 15/05/2023 19:04

Would probably go back to the solicitor who did your conveyancing work.

Atishoos · 15/05/2023 19:17

I'm not sure if I am interpreting your diagram properly, but have they taken over your land with the ladders and the fence etc. - i.e. the red hatched space between the two houses? Who would normally have access to this space according to the deeds?

I also think the gate needs some sort of permission to be attached to the side of your property.

Cluborange666 · 15/05/2023 20:43

Yes, the ladders are on our bit which we can’t even access as they have a gate across it.

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Atishoos · 15/05/2023 20:51

Oh come on! That is ridiculous. I doubt they have a leg to stand on. Start as you mean to go on, or they will be parking in your living room next.

The legal route is probably the best. Don't engage with neighbour, refer them to the solicitor at all times, and have a little card ready to hand them with legal's details. That is what you will be paying your money to legal for. Worth every penny I'd say, and don't even consider their feelings on the matter, they are not considering yours are they? Time for battle, and if necessary the police.

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