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Year 6 SATS

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KenAdams · 07/05/2023 18:02

What advice have your school given children?

Ours have cancelled all homework and are opening the school early so the children to have breakfast together which had really helped them to be more relaxed and focus on the breakfast part instead.

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Parker231 · 11/05/2023 18:18

Most schools use CATS - tests the ability to understand basic concepts. Can’t be revised or practiced so a more uniform approach to assessing new year 7’s.

Parker231 · 11/05/2023 18:21

GrazingSheep · 11/05/2023 18:15

Are SATS used for Ofsted reports as well?

Yes - they are now which is why teachers put so much pressure on pupils. The school and teachers are being judged.

Iamnotthe1 · 11/05/2023 18:22

Parker231 · 11/05/2023 18:08

Less than half of schools use the results for streaming in year 7 - the majority of schools don’t stream at that year group.

Progress 8 was introduced as a method of determining a secondary school’s effectiveness, in a similar way to how SATs results are used for primary schools. It doesn’t affect what grades someone may or may not get for their GCSE’s.
The SATS monitor the schools effectiveness in the different key stages - they do not have a positive or negative impact on pupils or how they will do in their exams. They are for the schools benefit not the pupils!

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On the surface level, yes. But in current behind-the-scenes practice, no.

The Progress 8 measure is a primary accountability measure by which secondaries are judged. As such, decisions are made at the strategic level, senior management level and departmental leadership level that draw on the attainment targets set from SATs results and attempt to maximise the Progress 8 value. These decisions can have a significant impact on the students without the kids, parents or even classroom teachers being aware of it.

Some schools don't use it to set, but to say that the results don't impact the students in the longer term is demonstratively false.

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Iamnotthe1 · 11/05/2023 18:28

Parker231 · 11/05/2023 18:21

Yes - they are now which is why teachers put so much pressure on pupils. The school and teachers are being judged.

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The last three years' overall attainment percentages and progress rates will be looked at in order to identify if there are any concerning trends the inspection needs to look into.

GrazingSheep · 11/05/2023 18:31

So when parents put a lot of value on getting their children into an outstanding primary is that off the back of Y6 children going through the SATS mill ?

CJCreggsGoldfish · 11/05/2023 18:43

Believeinmarmite · 07/05/2023 18:56

Not all schools hot house the kids! My kids school does 3 sets of practise tests throughout the year and that's about it. They have done some revision stuff in the last couple of weeks but my dd and all her friends seem totally chilled about it. The school have excellent results too.

Same for DD’s school. Very chilled approach, some kids were upset after yesterdays reading paper but that would be pressure they’ve put on themselves (or parents have put on them). Overall, a good way to approach them.

All of them have been enjoying the SATs breakfast and they’re off to the park after tomorrows maths.

Iamnotthe1 · 11/05/2023 18:44

GrazingSheep · 11/05/2023 18:31

So when parents put a lot of value on getting their children into an outstanding primary is that off the back of Y6 children going through the SATS mill ?

No, it's one element of many.

Ofsted ratings are an ineffective judge of a school's quality anyway. Looking at the attainment measure percentages and progress measures, including the relationship between the two, is more useful and representative.

GeorgieTK · 11/05/2023 19:52

How did everyone get on today with maths?

Sweetie1980 · 11/05/2023 20:39

my DS said the maths was fine and he had time to recheck his work , he came out much happier but is still upset about the English . I honestly think that paper traumatised him!

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