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NHS pay increase and bonus

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NHSWorker1 · 04/05/2023 14:58

Hi all, just wondered if anyone could provide some advice - anyone in the same boat?

I am a Band 5 administrative worker in the NHS on the AfC contract. I have been working in my role for nearly 3 years now.

We are due to receive the pay award plus the bonus in our June pay packets.

I am worried because I am a single parent to a 4 year old and I receive Universal Credit to top up my earnings, mainly the housing element and reclaim my child care costs as well as a proportion for the single and child element.

I know that UC will class this as earned income, but I am feeling a bit sad that I will potentially have to spend this money on rent and council tax (which is what my award usually goes on)

Is there any way I can perhaps defer the payment of the pay award and bonus and have it issued incrementally so it isn't a huge impact in one go?

Our payroll department are not taking any questions regarding the NHS pay award etc at present so thought if anyone may be able to advise?

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Danikm151 · 04/05/2023 15:04

I have this worry too( I’m not nhs but my workplace are dillydallying with our pay award)

Try and do a calculation to see if the amount will reduce your UC to zero. If not you will need to save the amount.

From a payroll perspective it’s being backdated so they’ve paid you the correct amount. They don’t consider the monthly nature of UC

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NHSWorker1 · 04/05/2023 15:11

I have enquired but it will be some time before I get an answer.

Good idea re the calculation. Suppose I could do that.

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user1471556642 · 04/05/2023 16:35

I believe the unions have discussed this and there will be an option to have the award in instalments

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WimbyAce · 04/05/2023 20:02

Have heard nothing about being able to have it paid in instalments. Also a heads up it will be based on hours and pay point as at 31st March 23. And from my understanding if you left prior to 31st March 23 you will receive zero which I think is appalling when the lump sum relates to 22/23.

ChangedForEmbarrassingQuestions · 04/05/2023 20:06

WimbyAce · 04/05/2023 20:02

Have heard nothing about being able to have it paid in instalments. Also a heads up it will be based on hours and pay point as at 31st March 23. And from my understanding if you left prior to 31st March 23 you will receive zero which I think is appalling when the lump sum relates to 22/23.

I’m trying not to be incredibly fucking pissed off at this as I left in January having worked full time all the way through Covid, and caught bloody Covid twice in that time despite going nowhere but work.

ApplePiePie · 04/05/2023 20:07

Oh I was wondering about that @WimbyAce as I left mid March 😭Seems grossly unfair

Semm · 04/05/2023 20:12

WimbyAce · 04/05/2023 20:02

Have heard nothing about being able to have it paid in instalments. Also a heads up it will be based on hours and pay point as at 31st March 23. And from my understanding if you left prior to 31st March 23 you will receive zero which I think is appalling when the lump sum relates to 22/23.

Really? That’s absolutely crap! Do you have a link for that?

user1471556642 · 04/05/2023 20:13

WimbyAce · 04/05/2023 20:02

Have heard nothing about being able to have it paid in instalments. Also a heads up it will be based on hours and pay point as at 31st March 23. And from my understanding if you left prior to 31st March 23 you will receive zero which I think is appalling when the lump sum relates to 22/23.

Just looked it up, knew I'd seen it somewhere. From the UNISON website
"UNISON has made sure there is a process for employers to offer staff an option to take their lump sum in instalments rather than in one month’s pay packet – which may be helpful for staff in receipt of benefits such as Universal Credit. If this affects you, you will need to let your employer know. Your employer and your local UNISON branch should be in touch to let you know how to do this where you work."

WimbyAce · 04/05/2023 21:03

It's all on NHS Employers

Eligibility:6. Who is eligible for the non-consolidated payments?
These non-consolidated payments will cover staff directly employed by NHS organisations (for example, permanent and fixed term contracts) as set out in Annex 1 of the handbook on Agenda for Change terms as of 31 March 2023

WimbyAce · 04/05/2023 21:05

From my understanding today someone who started on 31st March 2023 would be eligible which is ridiculous. I am sure there is further to run on this, all seems a bit rushed and it's not logical. I agree if you worked at all 22/23 you should be due pro-rate payment.

WimbyAce · 04/05/2023 21:09

user1471556642 · 04/05/2023 20:13

Just looked it up, knew I'd seen it somewhere. From the UNISON website
"UNISON has made sure there is a process for employers to offer staff an option to take their lump sum in instalments rather than in one month’s pay packet – which may be helpful for staff in receipt of benefits such as Universal Credit. If this affects you, you will need to let your employer know. Your employer and your local UNISON branch should be in touch to let you know how to do this where you work."

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Yes Unison are stating that but heard nothing from an employer perspective. NHS employers are just advising individuals to call the benefits office. But like I said, further to run on this I'm sure. They do seem to be trying to rush it through for June.

Semm · 04/05/2023 21:13

WimbyAce · 04/05/2023 21:05

From my understanding today someone who started on 31st March 2023 would be eligible which is ridiculous. I am sure there is further to run on this, all seems a bit rushed and it's not logical. I agree if you worked at all 22/23 you should be due pro-rate payment.

Unbelievable, hopefully the unions should be all over this??

WimbyAce · 04/05/2023 22:16

Semm · 04/05/2023 21:13

Unbelievable, hopefully the unions should be all over this??

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I would hope so. I have posed the question to Unison but not had a response as yet. At this stage it looks like they are looking at the easiest and quickest way of getting it paid which is using a blanket date of 31st March 23.

NoEffingWay · 04/05/2023 22:19

Anyone know if bank staff will get it? DP is bank staff only but has worked full time throughout the past three years on the same ward-he is employed by the trust directly on an AFC zero hours contract.

WimbyAce · 04/05/2023 22:20
  1. Will recently retired staff receive the non-consolidated payments for their work in the 2022/23 year? These non-consolidated payments apply to staff directly employed by an NHS organisation (e.g., permanent and fixed term contracts) as set out in Annex 1 of the handbook on Agenda for Change terms as of 31 March 2023. Any individual who has left NHS employment before that date is not eligible for these non-consolidated payments.
WimbyAce · 04/05/2023 22:20

NoEffingWay · 04/05/2023 22:19

Anyone know if bank staff will get it? DP is bank staff only but has worked full time throughout the past three years on the same ward-he is employed by the trust directly on an AFC zero hours contract.

No bank staff are not eligible.

WimbyAce · 04/05/2023 22:23

As an aside anyone on a career break will be assessed on a case by case basis. So potentially someone could have not worked at all and still receive it just because they are still employed!

NoEffingWay · 04/05/2023 22:25

@WimbyAce I suspected as much. It's a bit rubbish, especially as DP has more than completed fill time hours.

I'll get mine so I might share it!

Flowersun6 · 05/05/2023 20:43

Following.

WimbyAce · 11/05/2023 20:46

Just to update they have cascaded the info to allow people to spread the lump sum payment to avoid an impact on universal credit payments.

Whattodo112222 · 11/05/2023 21:40

Where is this published

Flowersun6 · 12/05/2023 03:02

WimbyAce · 11/05/2023 20:46

Just to update they have cascaded the info to allow people to spread the lump sum payment to avoid an impact on universal credit payments.

The request has to be put in before 5th June I imagine each Trust varies.

Superstar22 · 12/05/2023 05:00

Our trust have said it can be paid in instalments for people who would find this beneficial eg people on UC. Email came through on Thursday

WimbyAce · 12/05/2023 08:57

As a heads up, logistically this is a bit of a nightmare for payroll, so unless you really need it spread I would take it as a lump sum. Also just to ensure people are aware it is subject to both NI and tax deductions so the figures being quoted are gross.

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