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GRAMMER POLICE - Can you please advise which is the correct wording?

45 replies

Longingforthesummer · 01/05/2023 11:54

A. Look what nurses say about our...
B. Look what nurses' say about our...

plural by the way

OP posts:
MicrowaveRice · 01/05/2023 11:55

No apostrophe required.

CosyCoffee · 01/05/2023 11:56

A. No apostrophe necessary.

Tidsleytiddy · 01/05/2023 11:57

It’s grammar btw

AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair · 01/05/2023 11:57

Are you asking if a plural has an apostrophe?

I not the grammar police but of course not

Tidsleytiddy · 01/05/2023 11:57

A is correct

Dogsarebetterthanhumans · 01/05/2023 11:58

It’s grammar; is this a wind-up?!

Shinyandnew1 · 01/05/2023 11:59

Grammar.

Can you give us the rest of the sentence?

Boltonb · 01/05/2023 12:05

It’s grammar.

Nurses doesn’t need an apostrophe purely because it’s plural.

I’d say both options look and sound incorrect though. I’d assume you need an “at” after the “look”. Look that is clearly incorrect compared to look at that. You also don’t look at something that someone says. You listen.

Listen to what nurses say about X is probably what I’d say or write.

DancingWithTheMoonlitKnight · 01/05/2023 12:08

'Grammer police' is a sort of MN joke of old.

DancingWithTheMoonlitKnight · 01/05/2023 12:09

The GRAMMER POLICE' thread was very funny.

CrumpetsandJammmm · 01/05/2023 12:10

A.

There’s some kind of rule about an apostrophe only being needed when it is a contraction or a certain kind of plural, but I can’t remember what it is!

So it’s The Nurse’s Opinion if it is the opinion of one nurse, The Nurses Opinion if it is the opinion of multiple nurses.

ErrolTheDragon · 01/05/2023 12:12

So it’s The Nurse’s Opinion if it is the opinion of one nurse, The Nurses Opinion if it is the opinion of multiple nurses.

You mean the nurses' opinion in the second case, don't you?

NowZeusHasLainWithLeda · 01/05/2023 12:12

DancingWithTheMoonlitKnight · 01/05/2023 12:08

'Grammer police' is a sort of MN joke of old.

Yes. Shame that the usual suspects now use it as an opportunity to feel superior.

Arginalia · 01/05/2023 12:12

CrumpetsandJammmm · 01/05/2023 12:10

A.

There’s some kind of rule about an apostrophe only being needed when it is a contraction or a certain kind of plural, but I can’t remember what it is!

So it’s The Nurse’s Opinion if it is the opinion of one nurse, The Nurses Opinion if it is the opinion of multiple nurses.

It would be 'the nurses' opinion' for more than one nurse. For plurals ending in 's' the apostrophe to indicate possession goes after the 's'.

AutumnCrow · 01/05/2023 12:12

So it’s The Nurse’s Opinion if it is the opinion of one nurse, The Nurses Opinion if it is the opinion of multiple nurses.

Erm, about that ...

ErrolTheDragon · 01/05/2023 12:13

Muphry's law is bound to strike on this sort of thread!

SisterMaryLoquacious · 01/05/2023 12:13

Boltonb · 01/05/2023 12:05

It’s grammar.

Nurses doesn’t need an apostrophe purely because it’s plural.

I’d say both options look and sound incorrect though. I’d assume you need an “at” after the “look”. Look that is clearly incorrect compared to look at that. You also don’t look at something that someone says. You listen.

Listen to what nurses say about X is probably what I’d say or write.

"Look what" is grammatical gibberish if you look at it in isolation but actually it's perfectly normal informal English idiom.

"Look what's happening"/ "Look what you made me do"/"Look what I found". None of these would raise an eyebrow in most contexts.

Using an apostrophe on a simple plural however is never correct.

CrumpetsandJammmm · 01/05/2023 12:18

AutumnCrow · 01/05/2023 12:12

So it’s The Nurse’s Opinion if it is the opinion of one nurse, The Nurses Opinion if it is the opinion of multiple nurses.

Erm, about that ...

Ha! It is entirely wrong, what did I actually mean?

Takemehome7 · 01/05/2023 12:21

You use an apostrophe for possession or to substitute "is".

  • "The dog's friendly"
  • "The dog's toy is red"
  • "The dogs are in the garden"
  • "Dogs' toys are expensive"
Takemehome7 · 01/05/2023 12:23

Or to substitute "has"

  • "The dog's got a ball in its mouth"
Shinyandnew1 · 01/05/2023 12:24

I really think seeing the end of this sentence would be helpful here, @Longingforthesummer

Should it be ‘look AT what nurses say…about their shifts/pay/conditions’? Is there an AT missing? If there is, I think ‘listen to’ would be better.

If you want advice about making your sentence be correct and clear, you might as well go the whole hog and let us see all of it!

CosyCoffee · 01/05/2023 12:26

Grammer police are out in force

GRAMMER POLICE - Can you please advise which is the correct wording?
AutumnCrow · 01/05/2023 13:24

For a few seconds there I thought that the Grammer Police were a line-up of Graham Nortons.

I am easily confused 😄

Freshfoods · 01/05/2023 13:31

Correct:
Look what the nurses (plural) say about....

The apostrophe is used to show possession.
So, 'The nurse's bag was open.'(One nurse)

Also to show plural possession.
So, 'All the nurses' bags were open.

Helendegenerate · 01/05/2023 13:41

@CosyCoffee It's Graham Norton's don't you know!!!

Seriously though I am an absolute stickler for correct grammar at all times whether written or spoken but tend not to call anyone out on their errors. While it is so easy for me and many others to get it right with no effort I accept that for many it is a tricky one and we don't know their ages or their schooling history. I have seen several pieces of text written by English teachers (yes!) and even they get it wrong.
From what I read the spelling and grammar rules are much more relaxed now compared to decades ago. I don't like it but there you go.