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Does anyone else find maths hard?

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qksjfvfghbds · 28/04/2023 21:10

I was trying to help my nephew do some maths homework the other day, he's year 10. I thought I'd whizz through this not a bother. The reality however, was very bloody different. Im so used to using my calculator on phone (apple) to take away/add percentages that I actually can't remember how to do it. Also, recurring decimals, fractions? Honestly I just couldn't remember how to do anything. I never liked maths back when I was at school but managed a 'C'

Does anyone else think they are completely thick or is it just me?

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TeamSleep · 28/04/2023 21:13

Yes me! I struggle helping my year 3 child so I’ll be useless when they get to year 10! I got a B in GCSE maths when I was at school but if you don’t use it you lose it and with a calculator always at hand there seems little point in remembering how to work things out so it just goes out of my brain.

Greentree1 · 28/04/2023 21:13

I am very good at maths, but they teach it differently these days which led to a few meltdowns. I know how I was taught and how to do it, but that is not the way DD was taught.

qksjfvfghbds · 28/04/2023 21:17

I think this is also part of the problem- everything changes all the time! I'm literally dreading my son doing high school work. I actually shocked at how thick i must be in the modern world 🤣

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Slimjimtobe · 28/04/2023 21:17

I got a B and good in terms of what I need to do and remember a lot of what I did as a child but being honest - a bit crap and wouldn’t be confident with a lot of it

Sausagis · 28/04/2023 21:18

I went to a primary school evening about maths. They asked for a show of hands who would say they were a good reader - most people- then good at maths - almost nobody. But also they said that people were less likely to be embarrassed admitting they were bad at maths because it was quite widespread. They said how we were taught maths didn't really work, which is why they changed it.

TheGriffle · 28/04/2023 21:20

I got a C in GCSE maths but I’m crap at it. I can only do my 9 x tables using the finger method. couldn’t do the 7 x without counting.
I always say you’re usually either mathematically minded or English minded. I’m excellent at spelling, writing things etc, but rubbish at maths, Dh is the opposite, rubbish at spellings but ok with maths.

Pedallleur · 28/04/2023 21:20

Was poor at school but didn't work at it. I understand it better now40 yrs later but still can't do algebra. I envy those can understand mathematics. It's a v.pure discipline

WrigglyDonCat · 28/04/2023 22:08

TheGriffle · 28/04/2023 21:20

I got a C in GCSE maths but I’m crap at it. I can only do my 9 x tables using the finger method. couldn’t do the 7 x without counting.
I always say you’re usually either mathematically minded or English minded. I’m excellent at spelling, writing things etc, but rubbish at maths, Dh is the opposite, rubbish at spellings but ok with maths.

Without being too direct and asking your age, I'd love to know when you were at school, because what you have written about tables sums up how rubbish teaching (at least in maths) has been for far too long. I would guess after the end of the 1980s? Simple motto for teaching anything, don't make things more complex than they need to be. Special 'methods' for this, that and the other invariably seem to introduce as many problems as they solve.

There's a reason why for hundreds of years times tables were learned by rote. Because it works. Rote learning has its limited place and this is, very much, it. What the hell is the finger method? I learned my tables 40+ years ago in a night (the bribe was a prize for the first to be able do 1 - 12 x 1 - 12 - I got a creme egg - yay!). Can still recite them today (and can rapidly fill in memory gaps through mental arithmetic) and use that ability on a very regular basis.

And the idea that you are either good at English or at maths, but not both is a terrible concept to promulgate. It is simply encouraging that idea that if you are good at English, it's ok to be bad at maths. If you genuinely struggle, fair enough, it is what it is, but never, ever pass on the idea that being bad at maths is normal, even kind of 'cool'. Being able to do the basics (arithmetic, percentages, even trig) easily is normal - as normal as being able to construct a coherent sentence. Just tonight I used some trig to work out how to shape a piece of wood to make a modification to my greenhouse - when you know how it's amazing how often these kind of things come in useful.

I'm a scientist and mathematician at heart, but hopefully you can tell from my writing, that my English ain't that piss poor either. Same goes for every research scientist I ever worked with. All had great skills with language, and some weren't bad with the old figures neither (yes, I'm aware...).

princesslouloubananahammock · 28/04/2023 22:26

I'm piss poor at maths.
Do not know my times tables at all and still have to use my fingers for simple adding and taking away.

I don't know if it's just something that has just never clicked for me or if the teaching I had was poor.... maybe both.

Shopper727 · 28/04/2023 22:28

Terrible, I am dyslexic but think also dyscalculia, my son has dyscalculia and struggles. However I use maths for work and it makes sense and I’m good at it because it makes sense and I enjoy it, however terrible at budgeting/money. Don’t know my tables nor to my sons

Mutabiliss · 28/04/2023 22:34

I'm terrible at maths and suspect if I were at school now I'd be diagnosed with dyscalculia - it's like a brick wall comes down in my brain, I find it so frustrating. I'm generally quite intelligent and quick to understand things, so the maths blind spot is annoying.

My partner is very good at maths and our son seems to have inherited that (only pre-school age but can add and subtract, understands patterns, can count into the hundreds) and I'm so, so glad because it's so useful in life.

Mutabiliss · 28/04/2023 22:36

That said, I do know my times tables because I learned them by rote - like poetry, which I can do! They're very useful to know. I couldn't tell you 8x7 without going through the whole thing in my head though.

BuffyTheCat · 28/04/2023 22:37

I was good at maths but they teach it differently now, so I wasn’t much help with my kids. Fortunately they were all good at maths, so they didn’t need much of my non-help.

I must admit I’ve now forgotten almost everything except times tables, which I use all the time, and quadratic equations, which I haven’t encountered since 1988.

TheGriffle · 28/04/2023 22:54

@WrigglyDonCat good guess, I was born in 1986! My good at English/bad at math is purely anecdotal and I certainly don’t think being bad at math is cool, it can be very frustrating when I can’t help my 10 year old with her homework.

The finger method for the 9 x tables, say for example 6 x 9, you put your 6th finger down (well thumb) and the remaining fingers and thumb give you your answer.

DarkVelvetySilkyShiraz · 28/04/2023 23:08

Hi op, I'm not good at maths. By age 9 I had not picked up any basics at all in maths or English.

So because each maths lesson expected me to know the basics I wasted endless hours of my life until 16.
I don't feel thick at all infact I know now I'm reasonable intelligent in many areas.
I also know I'm good at investment..many maths people are not. I'm growing my money. They are not. Other skills got me further.

WandaWonder · 28/04/2023 23:31

I did good at uni math, I have a year 10 child and I am utterly hopeless

From year 7 and maybe even earlier there is,stuff I have never even heard of before let alone getting my head around

blueshoes · 28/04/2023 23:35

I am good (not great) at math and I am good at English. I make a living with English but I manage the household finances and investments with math and cooking and chores with science and art.

ChopperC110P · 28/04/2023 23:40

I’m ok at maths. Not especially good at anything. I was really proud when I helped my DC with A level physics that I’d retained enough to do it! Especially since my career is not physics or even science related.

Apollonia1 · 28/04/2023 23:49

I love maths and have a degree in it. But when my niece asked for help with GCSE prep, I couldn't remember how to do most of it, and it's taught differently now too.

My kids are only toddlers, but once they're in secondary school, I plan to go through every page of their maths text books and do every single question, so I'm "learning" with them and will be able to help them.

blueshoes · 29/04/2023 00:25

Apollonia1 · 28/04/2023 23:49

I love maths and have a degree in it. But when my niece asked for help with GCSE prep, I couldn't remember how to do most of it, and it's taught differently now too.

My kids are only toddlers, but once they're in secondary school, I plan to go through every page of their maths text books and do every single question, so I'm "learning" with them and will be able to help them.

There are no math textbooks. Only bits of paper that fall out of exercise books hth.

ChopperC110P · 29/04/2023 00:57

blueshoes · 29/04/2023 00:25

There are no math textbooks. Only bits of paper that fall out of exercise books hth.

There are workbooks though for GCSEs and A levels that you buy yourself. They still offer physical books plus online books. I always buy both as my DC sometimes get tempted to surf instead of revise if they’re using a screen at home. At the kitchen table with a physical work book, they put their heads down and work. They have iPads and use the online version in class.

HelpMeGetThrough · 29/04/2023 01:37

I'm shocking at maths if you put a question in front of me to do, I managed to scrape a C at GCSE (first year of them).

Weird thing is, I'm a Programmer and if you threw the same thing at me and said "write a program to do this...", it wouldn't be a problem.

Must be just how my brain works, knocking out code in multiple different languages comes easily to me.

mathanxiety · 29/04/2023 01:44

Excellent post, @WrigglyDonCat.
I also learned tables by heart.

Promoting the idea that there are maths people and language people and never the twain shall meet in effect means thst girls shy away from STEM and the careers and salaries that come with that.

The fact that you can drop STEM or language arts/ humanities after GCSE contributes to the problem.

I went to school in Ireland, where a broad range of subjects, including maths and English, are studied for the Leaving Cert, and my kids went to school in the US, again encountering the requirement that they do well across a broad range of subjects, including maths, English, mfl, science, humanities, ifbtheybwished to go to university.

It's amazing what you can accomplish when you have no other choice, and frankly, it's amazing how good teachers are forced to be when they know their students simply must master the material.

2chocolateoranges · 29/04/2023 01:49

I’m shit at maths, I hate numbers, fractions, calculators, in fact anything to do with maths.

bizarrelly both my children are at university studying a maths based course. They definitely don’t get their talent from me! 😂😂😂

QueenBitch666 · 29/04/2023 01:58

I worked my butt off at Maths and was still useless. And I consider myself to be reasonably intelligent
I'm convinced there's such a thing as Maths Dyslexia. Is this a thing?