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I'm a bit miffed about this Food Tech ingredients list

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IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 15/04/2023 11:09

Not feeling brave enough for AIBU, and I'm sure the teacher has her reasons, but this is what DS needs to take to school next week. He's 14/Y9, do not into GCSE course yet, and food tech isn't one on his options. Also, he has food tech after lunch, and has to carry his cooking around for the rest of the day, as the fridges are full of heat the morning lessons have made. OK for scones, but for chicken?

Here is the offending ingredients list:

Thai Green Curry - 1 onion, 1 clove of garlic, 80g sugar snap peas, 2 small chicken breasts, 30ml Thai green curry paste. 200ml coconut milk, ½ lime, small bunch coriander.

My concerns - there's about £8 worth of stuff there, many of which (curry paste, coconut milk, coriander) come in bigger packs than required. That doesn't seem to be considerate of the CoL crisis - it's a big standard academy comp in a not-particularly affluent area.

Also - no veggie alternative ingredients offered - so half our household wouldn't eat the results anyway.

DS is not matey enough with anyone in his FFT class to suggest sharing ingredients. Expensive ingredients!

I'm delighted that the school is teaching the kids to make something other than scones and pizza, but there are so many cheaper curries to mark in an hour! They could start by making the curry paste! Or school providing (and charging for) the ingredients the kids won't need need "all" of.

(DS's previous school/DD's school charge for all FFT and RMT ingredients and materials at the start of the year, abs supply everything. I appreciate limited kitchen space doesn't always make this possible).

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IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 15/04/2023 18:23

Blip · 15/04/2023 17:46

Ideally they could eat the food for lunch so that nothing needs to come back home either

The lesson is after lunch.

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IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 15/04/2023 18:28

JustDanceAddict · 15/04/2023 17:37

Thanks goodness DCs school just asked for money & to bring a container. Bit dodgy carrying chicken around all day - def get frozen breasts.

Sending frozen chicken is a really good idea. Thank you.

I do believe DS on the fridge issue, unless all his mates have teamed up and created the same elaborate lie. I imagine this is why we're asked to send food in a cool box with ice packs.

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lunar1 · 15/04/2023 18:43

I think I'd be sending the school some links to food hygiene courses. Absolutely no way would I let them teach my sons it's ok to carry around raw meat, followed by cooling cooked meat until they finally get home 🤢

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NumberTheory · 15/04/2023 18:53

Sending frozen chicken is a really good idea. Thank you.

If you're sending it frozen he needs to be able to ensure it's defrosted properly before he cooks. Will he have the facilities to be able to do that?

Twiglets1 · 15/04/2023 18:59

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 15/04/2023 16:02

The school email out the ingredients list to the appropriate parents every fortnight. This is the first time they've done a dish where meat has been such a significant ingredient. There is sometimes a veggie alternatives list - usually just missing out the meat, which is fine for pizza! Nothing suggested this time. The teacher has previously said that age doesn't want all the kids to bring in loads of different alternatives, as it makes the class difficult to teach. Fine, so why not suggest an "official" alternative? I have plenty of ways of making it vegetarian. Because now there will be loads of different alternatives bought in!

But my issue is not actually about whether there is a veggie alternative, it's that school should be sensitive to CoL concerns and just do a cheaper recipe with less waste potential. This is a high cost recipe for anyone!

I don't personally see chicken curry as a high cost recipe. Parents are free to substitute breast fillets for chicken thighs or vegetarian alternatives, and you know really that the school will accept that without issues. You're making a bit of a fuss. Families who are really struggling will be able to get financial support through the school for things like Food tech ingredients.

diddl · 15/04/2023 19:01

Isn't chicken supposed to be defrosted in a fridge?

Think I'd try to find a substitute tbh especially if not everyone would eat it.

RosesAndHellebores · 15/04/2023 19:03

@Okunevo the point is, if people master the basic principles, they can cook anything.

Okunevo · 15/04/2023 19:47

RosesAndHellebores · 15/04/2023 19:03

@Okunevo the point is, if people master the basic principles, they can cook anything.

Really? I learnt to make basic pastry for jam tarts, Victoria sponge, apple crumble etc with my grandmother. I never make those things now except for stewed apple or rhubarb that I prefer to eat on it's own or with porridge. It taught me nothing about making a dhal or chilli or cottage pie or something similar to feed a family on a budget. I had to teach myself as an adult.

bellac11 · 15/04/2023 19:47

I defrost meat on the worktops and I also cook with frozen from time to time depending on what Im doing, its about making sure its cooked within the dish

The issue with chicken thighs is that they need long slower cooking otherwise they can be tough and chewy, presuming the lesson is not that long to accommoate that

He's better off taking a sweet potato or something like that

RosesAndHellebores · 15/04/2023 19:59

So, you didn't know the basics of thickening a sauce, sweating carrot and onion together, sautéing the Mince and draining the fat, etc.

Needmorelego · 15/04/2023 20:03

@RosesAndHellebores they sound like basics for the diet you eat.
I don't make sauses (especially "brown sauce" aka gravy).
I don't cook or eat mince.
I only like carrots raw.
That wouldn't be basic cooking for me - because I don't eat food like that.

JingleBellez · 15/04/2023 20:38

Blue Dragon do a thai green curry kit that's 3.10. Sold at tesco.

JingleBellez · 15/04/2023 20:38

tesco's own is 2.80 love

JingleBellez · 15/04/2023 20:40

asda sell the blue dragon kit for 2.50

FancyFanny · 15/04/2023 20:53

You shop in a Tesco Express and then complain that you can't afford it?

Orders76 · 15/04/2023 20:57

We always substitute whatever we want so we still end up with a curry but I might use Quorn chicken and a small tin Tesco coconut milk. As long as it's close will they be strict? Really wouldn't be happy about carrying around warm uncooked chicken.

Needmorelego · 15/04/2023 21:10

@FancyFanny maybe a Tesco Express is the only shop a person can get too.

Yellowdays · 15/04/2023 22:23

It really annoys me that schools don't provide things like curry paste or yeast to be bought by the portion. Lazy and tone deaf.

Yellowdays · 15/04/2023 22:25

And surely anyone can see that £2.80 or £3.10 on flavouring is a lot for some people.

FranksOcean · 15/04/2023 22:33

Rummikub · 15/04/2023 14:41

Try tinned green lentils in place of mince. Works a treat.

Merchant Gourmet Puy Lentils (in the pouch) are really good too!

potatowhale · 15/04/2023 22:36

Yellowdays · 15/04/2023 22:23

It really annoys me that schools don't provide things like curry paste or yeast to be bought by the portion. Lazy and tone deaf.

But a jar of curry paste can br used to make multiple curry's once kid has used it.

Only issue I can see is half a lime means ridiculous wastage and the chicken will get all warm and the kids will be off school with food poisoning.

potatowhale · 15/04/2023 22:36

FranksOcean · 15/04/2023 22:33

Merchant Gourmet Puy Lentils (in the pouch) are really good too!

You can legit just buy red lentils in a packet and bung them in instead of mince

Oblomov23 · 15/04/2023 22:46

I actually agree. I had this with ds2. I felt like emailing her and asking can't they share? A tube of green curry paste. I mean, really? Hmm

RampantIvy · 15/04/2023 23:06

potatowhale · 15/04/2023 22:36

You can legit just buy red lentils in a packet and bung them in instead of mince

Yes you can. I love red lentils as well, but puy lentils have a better texture for a mince dish IMO.

Rummikub · 16/04/2023 00:27

Twiglets1 · 15/04/2023 18:59

I don't personally see chicken curry as a high cost recipe. Parents are free to substitute breast fillets for chicken thighs or vegetarian alternatives, and you know really that the school will accept that without issues. You're making a bit of a fuss. Families who are really struggling will be able to get financial support through the school for things like Food tech ingredients.

The threshold for fsm is very low. Lots of low income families don’t qualify.

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