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So what jobs are AI proof then?

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StrongJamie · 07/04/2023 15:35

Based on recent media report we are facing an imminent (?) AI revolution.

I imagine that doctors, teachers, lecturers, accountants and civil servants can easily be replaced by AI and tailored professional AI software. I am guessing that jobs that require intricate physical handling are less at risk as it would be expense to mass produce the Hardware. Hospital doctors are more at risk than ward nurses but less than GPs who soon will be obsolete.

It will be a good while until they can mass produce robots that do humans jobs, which require a lot of running around and haptic skill but some jobs don't need a person, they just need the right software (e.g. GPs).

I imagine it like this, you log onto your GP AI service, they know all your medical history and also all the up to date epidemiological data of your neighbourhood as well as your biomarkers, pulse, heart rate etc uploaded via your smart watch continuously. The system knows about all possible diseases and conditions and based on your biomarkers and symptoms knows how to signpost you for further tests or what to prescribe. Job done, no more GP.

Teachers? No need. Ai robots, virtual or physical deliver synchronous teaching the rest is done online.

Please pick holes in my assumptions or add to the list of soon to be obsolete professions.

Which ones are ai bullet proof?

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ErrolTheDragon · 10/04/2023 14:24

AI and robotics are tools, not fundamentally different to other powered machines, computers and the Internet except in sophistication. It's up to people to work out how to use them effectively.

Trying to find a pharmacy open on Easter Sunday made me wish for an AI pharmacy with robotic dispensing, for sure.

ErrolTheDragon · 10/04/2023 14:29

RedRosie · 10/04/2023 11:12

AI poetry is excruciating. So I don't think most poets have much to worry about 😂.

Ask it to write you a short poem on any given subject, and enjoy!

So, my question was:
In Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, Vogon poetry is said to be the second worst in thr galaxy. I think ChatGPT can do worse - can you write a bad poem on the subject of AI poetry?

It complied with alacrity:
Oh, AI poetry, what a bore,
With lines so flat and words so poor.
Its rhythms lack a human touch,
It's just a string of words as such.
The algorithm churns out verse,
But lacks the soul to make it worse.
The rhymes are forced, the cadence off,
It's enough to make a human scoff.
No passion in its stilted prose,
No heart in the lines it chose.
A machine can never hope to be,
A true poet, like you or me.
So let's leave the AI to its code,
And let the human poets hit the road.
For though we may not all be great,
Our words are real, and carry weight.

StrongJamie · 10/04/2023 14:35

That's not bad @ErrolTheDragon. Much better than I'd have expected. Shock

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ErrolTheDragon · 10/04/2023 14:39

But it was meant to be writing a bad poem!
And its attempt when then asked
Now can you write a good poem, in the style of any great romantic poet, on the subject of AI generated poetry?

Was basically the same clunking style

Oh, wondrous technology of our age,
That gifts us with poetry from a machine.
For though some might scoff and call it a page,
We poets know it's more than it might seem.
The algorithm's precise and quick,
Its lines crafted with mathematical art.
And though it may not know love's sweetest trick,
It brings forth words that stir the human heart.
Its language may lack passion and fire,
But its form is flawless, and precise as can be.
And though some might call it cold, uninspired,
Its poetry is still a marvel to see.
So let us embrace this new creation,
This poetry from the mind of a machine.
For though it lacks a human's elation,
Its beauty is still a sight to be seen.

I think both Vogon and human poets can rest on their laurels a while longerGrin

LexMitior · 10/04/2023 15:08

Yes terrible at expression but for bureaucracies it is better than perfect. So... dull.

Liebig · 10/04/2023 15:18

@ErrolTheDragon

for your first prompt, I get this:

In circuits and wires, I shall compose,
A poem so dreadful, it'll curl your toes.
With bytes and bits and algorithms too,
I'll craft a verse that's sure to make you spew.
Oh, AI, machine of wretched verse,
Whose poetry provokes a curse,
Your stanzas formed with syntax vile,
A digital abyss, no style, no guile.
A cascade of ones and zeros slither,
Concocting phrases that make us quiver,
This AI, a font of misery,
No hope for art, no empathy.
Binary codes and data sets,
A cacophony of words and frets,
The rhymes are off, the meter's wrong,
In disharmony, the AI's song.
So here, dear reader, take a whiff,
Of this AI-crafted, rancid riff,
Inhale its stench, recoil and wail,
For 'tis the AI's poetry travail.

And using your second prompt from that:

Upon the cusp of twilight's gentle grace,
A wondrous vision did my senses seize,
As through the vast expanse of cyberspace,
I chanced upon an AI's artful breeze.
Inscribed in lines of code, a tender tale,
That spoke of love and loss, and sweet desire,
And as I read, my heart began to sail,
Upon a sea of verse, so wild, so dire.
How curious, the soul of this machine,
Which crafted poetry, both true and fair,
In depths of silicon, a spark unseen,
The artful touch of something almost rare.
Oh, AI! Thou hast touched the deepest chords,
And graced the world with thy synthetic words.
For in thy cold, metallic frame and core,
A heart of poetry, a hidden gem,
Which blossoms forth in beauty evermore,
A new and wondrous age thou dost condemn.
Can mortal pen compete with this new muse,
Which draws from boundless knowledge, endless skies?
In truth, we stand upon a threshold, whose
Impending fusion, fain, we must surmise.
So with a grateful heart, I bless this dawn,
For AI's poetry shall live anon,
And in its digital embrace, entwined,
A union of the mortal and the divine.

ErrolTheDragon · 10/04/2023 16:22

For my money, the second is the worst of the lot.Grin

MissLucyLiu · 10/04/2023 16:25

Anywhere requires physical labour

So for many people don't think AI can replace office jobs. They can still day dream and good luck

RedRosie · 10/04/2023 19:01

@ErrolTheDragon proved my point. It doesn't understand Vogon poetry at all 😂

I asked for a haiku about Spring:

Soft breeze on my cheek,
Cherry blossoms pink and white,
Spring brings new delight.

Awful 😂.

Liebig · 11/04/2023 11:59

Honestly not going to worry about AI art given most of the diffusion models and LLMs are using already extant work to basically mix it up and make something “new” (you could argue ALL artists plagiarise older ideas, but that’s another can of worms). People have been using algos to make better art ever since home computing came about. Does Photoshop or Logic being used mean the artists was a hack fraud?

More concerned with an AGI that is good enough to basically replace a lot of deal jobs or at least heavily reduce the workload and so staffing.

whatsyourpoison12 · 14/04/2023 18:00

sex work.
beauticians hair dressers.
community carers I cant imagine ai robots being able to wipe an oaps arse any time soon.

Damnloginpopup · 14/04/2023 18:10

...and yet they raise the retirement age...

Florenz · 15/04/2023 11:59

whatsyourpoison12 · 14/04/2023 18:00

sex work.
beauticians hair dressers.
community carers I cant imagine ai robots being able to wipe an oaps arse any time soon.

There will be robots that can do all those things in a few years. people thought the idea of robot cars that drove themselves was ludicrous and would never happen and now here we are. In 20, 25 years there will be robots that are practically indistinguishable from humans.

RosaGallica · 15/04/2023 12:21

Poblano · 07/04/2023 19:00

AI can be massively biased, it all depends on whether there are biases in the training data. Generally AI takes human bias and amplifies it.

Going back up a bit, but I take it that @rewilded never saw Blake’s 7?

AI does not remove the possibility of information being controlled to obtain specific results - quite the opposite on the strength of current trends. Technology is currently enabling control of information and social trends not freedom and democracy.

ErrolTheDragon · 15/04/2023 14:50

There will be robots that can do all those things in a few years. people thought the idea of robot cars that drove themselves was ludicrous and would never happen and now here we are.

But we still may prefer to have a human do our hair etc. As to driving - many people already have cars which could park themselves yet never use that functionality. There was a letter in the paper today basically saying that people who buy a Mustang do so because they want to drive it, not be a passenger.

Rummikub · 15/04/2023 14:58

And those self driving cars don’t recognise black or brown faces as people!

whatsyourpoison12 · 16/04/2023 02:09

Florenz · 15/04/2023 11:59

There will be robots that can do all those things in a few years. people thought the idea of robot cars that drove themselves was ludicrous and would never happen and now here we are. In 20, 25 years there will be robots that are practically indistinguishable from humans.

no way in hell would I let a robot near my hair speak for yourself

Magnoliainbloom · 16/04/2023 02:39

Years away from AI replacing doctors. I work in the field of prediction modeling in a specific field of medicine and we aren’t even close to doctors being replaced. The complexities of bringing different modes of data into daily use are min-boggling. With AI models, the output is only as good as the data inputs. There are also enormous ethical issues re biased data and how well predictions represent the population at large.

Liebig · 16/04/2023 23:10

Magnoliainbloom · 16/04/2023 02:39

Years away from AI replacing doctors. I work in the field of prediction modeling in a specific field of medicine and we aren’t even close to doctors being replaced. The complexities of bringing different modes of data into daily use are min-boggling. With AI models, the output is only as good as the data inputs. There are also enormous ethical issues re biased data and how well predictions represent the population at large.

With or without transformer based LLM models like GPT-3 and 4? Because Google has also been working on AI for years and was totally unprepared for what OpenAI achieved in just under a decade.

There are numerous papers coming out weekly now quantifying things that ChatGPT couldn’t do six months ago that are now solved by GPT-4. And this is not even the version that is behind closed doors that no public API access is allowed yet.

I think a lot of timelines need to be reassessed, especially as AI researchers were blindsided by these developments as much as the public.

Florenz · 17/04/2023 20:39

Can we have an AI Prime Minister and Politicians?

Liebig · 18/04/2023 15:36

AskMeMore · 08/04/2023 02:13

AI will advance. But it is massively oversold at the moment. We still don't have a tool that can do an accurate transcription of speeches being given. A relatively simple task compared to many jobs and yet the tools still get a lot wrong.

Did you see OpenAI’s Whisper? It’s almost flawless.

AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii · 18/04/2023 16:38

@Damnloginpopup good point, if AI was anywhere near being able to take over a lot of roles the retirement age wouldn’t keep being put up and up

mellicauli · 18/04/2023 18:08

I tried to get Chat GPT to sort out some dates on a spreadsheet for me today. They were all in different formats. I just wanted them standardised. Simple, boring stuff.

It managed to follow instructions in the end for 20 lines of data, but I had to re iterate the instructions a couple of times. Once it did 20 lines, but it was still not quite to my exacting speciifcations (I write specifications as part of my job, I know what I am doing there)

Then I gave it 200. It started giving me someone else's data. I stopped it. Then it made me give all the instructions again. Again, it ignored some of them.

Admin assistants, I think you are good for another few years. Lawyers, I think you are probably fine for the rest of your working lives

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