Applying for Irish nationality -impact on family

[Matchingcollarandcuffs]

Hello

I very fortuitously can apply for Irish naturalisation through my late grandpa. As DCs are teens it’s too late for them, and am I right that the only way DH could benefit is if we divorced and remarried?

Are there any benefits when travelling to the EU of being the spouse/child of an EU citizen.

I just despair of the massive brick wall (gaping chasm) we’ve built to block off our kids from so many opportunities.

Thank you

Well there's a thing! If I do what you suggested and say we're staying for less than 90 days, then it says I don't need a visa! Just that i need to sort a residence permit in our prefecture. Thank you so much.

We stay for 5 or 6 months each year, so do I need to do that every time, or does the permit last forever? And presumably I need to tell our prefecture that they'd given me duff advice 🤦‍♀️

Again, thank you, you've likely saved me a long trip to the visa application centre later this week!

Also, one last question () DH isn't working in the UK or EU, and nether am I, though we can support ourselves and prove it. That doesn't make a difference does it?

Love it! Totally serves them right for voting leave

Unfortunately, I can think of quite a few Leave voters who did so while vocally priding themselves on getting ‘their’ Irish passport, in a spirit of great appreciation of their own cunning, and ‘taking control of our borders’ while benefiting from another country’s membership of the EU.

Only a particular type of smug and stupid would think that an Irish person was going to find this worthy of admiration, especially when it was clear they knew absolutely nothing about Ireland and cared less, especially what Brexit did in terms of a potential derail of the situation in NI.

Yes, these people are legally entitled to an Irish passport, but I would personally like to see a basic ‘knowledge of Ireland’ test made mandatory, if only to make this kind of fuckwit acquire some basic facts about a near neighbour who is benefiting them, instead of offensive stereotypes.

Hi @Matchingcollarandcuffs, have you checked all the criteria for Irish citizenship? Your kids may actually be eligible.
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/irish_citizenship/irish_citizenship_through_birth_or_descent.html

Self sufficiency is covered in the rules, you have to show that you are self supporting, with documentation. Every member state differs but as general rule you have to show that you have an income, or savings, at a level that is above the point you would be eligible for social assistance in the State. Plus you are supposed to have medical insurance for you both.

We can prove self sufficiency so should be fine. Really can't thank you enough @IAmInMeHoop this is such good news for us, and may change our long term plans.

I wonder how many other people have ended up getting a visa they didn't actually need.

No problem, PM me if you need further

@Aerielview sadly as I hadn't registered before I had the DCs they can't get it from me, but still just happy I an DH will be able to more more freely in the EU as I've inherited my late mum's share in a house in France and we may want to be able to visit for longer than 3 months (could work from there potentially for a chunk of time - if we could get wifi installed!!
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Would I qualify by having 8 Irish great grandparents? My granny was born in Ireland too but we have no idea where her birth certificate is or even if she was properly registered.

You can't qualify from great grandparents. But if you can get your grandmothers docs you can gain citizenship through her. You can get birth certificates here: https://www2.hse.ie/services/births-deaths-and-marriages/order/birth-certificate/

you may have to find the relevant details to gain one elsewhere though,

I was quite vague when I sent my request to the Irish records office and it was in Covid and they replied within about 6 weeks with my grandpa's birth certificate - it wasn't as hard I thought it would be.

You can spend more than 90/180 as the spouse of a EU national

Only if you apply for permanent residence within those 90 days I was told. Not if you’re just holidaying.

Make sure you don’t stay more than 183 days in a year, otherwise you are classed as resident for tax and social security purposes.