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If you're Northern how ignorant are you about the South?

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CuriousMama · 01/04/2023 10:19

I'm terrible sometimes. Today was talking to dh about a local football team who are playing Swindon. I actually thought that was near London. Always have. I seem to have a block about southern geography. I know where London is obviously 😂 I've been a few times. Hate it though. I only went for events etc.

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NormaTheWife · 01/04/2023 12:48

CuriousMama · 01/04/2023 12:20

I might. My dad was from Ayrshire and close friend from Glasgow.

I would bet Livingston 😂

Kennykenkencat · 01/04/2023 12:51

I am from the North I know I never fitted in there.
I have never got the Northerners are friendly and Southerners aren’t

Northerners in my experience are only friendly in order to get to know everything about you then will stab you in the back at the first opportunity.

Within 6 months of living in London I had more friends than I ever had in all the places in the north I have ever lived.
Everyone was friendly without that pervading pushiness of trying to invade your space in the name of helping and being friendly.

i have lived in London for more years than I lived in the north.
My black hole on geography is when I lived in the Midlands. I have driven in many cities in many countries. I can even drive to Rome or Marbella without a Sat Nav but
coming out of Birmingham I used to have to study a map to remember my way home (usually 30 minutes drive). I always seemed to get completely lost and in some far flung Warwickshire village when I lived South of Birmingham

I could never remember what towns are north south east or west of Birmingham. Used to get Solihull and Sutton Coldfield mixed up regularly.

Eranzer · 01/04/2023 12:55

UrsulaBelle · 01/04/2023 12:35

I do get a bit confused about the relative positions of cities and towns in Yorkshire. Sheffield, Leeds, Bradford etc. But I’m from Bristol and I know the south west and South Wales pretty well.

My DS has moved to Prestwich. Am I allowed to say he lives in Manchester? 🤷🏼‍♀️

Yeah, I'm a Manc and Prestwich is more Bury but I know plenty of folk from there that generalise as being 'from Manchester'

Rebel2 · 01/04/2023 12:58

I was born down south and lived there for a while so I'm fairly ok with geography
However I've never been to London so have no idea about areas within London itself

whynotwhatknot · 01/04/2023 13:01

well im southern and dont know little towns and such up north

im closer to france than most of the north anyway

everyone always refers to me living in london-im in essex

motherofkevinnotperry · 01/04/2023 13:01

I'm not at all ignorant of the south or north or Scotland but I do find many are very opinionated based on no personal experience.

CuriousMama · 01/04/2023 13:02

Kennykenkencat · Today 12:51
I am from the North I know I never fitted in there.
I have never got the Northerners are friendly and Southerners aren’t

Northerners in my experience are only friendly in order to get to know everything about you then will stab you in the back at the first opportunity

Think you're generalising a bit there based on your experience. And this thread isn't about how shit northerners/southerners are. It's about lack of general geographical knowledge of Britain.

I've met lots of lovely people from all over. And some awful ones. But in the main people are decent.
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RosesAndHellebores · 01/04/2023 13:02

From a money perspective though, my MIL lives quite centrally in a large Yorkshire Town/City in a three bed 1930s semi. It is worth about £220k. That house in the southern seaside village/town where my mother lives would cost about £480k.

For vocationally/professionally qualified folk I think materially, the quality of life in the North is better. However, if you have it in the south you can chose whether to stay there or to move and free up capital or get more property bang for your buck.

I think I could place most UK cities on a map. I do not know the Midlands very well except for Derbyshire. I regard Derbyshire as the North Midlands rather than the North. It is utterly beautiful.

CuriousMama · 01/04/2023 13:06

Mrsjayy · 01/04/2023 12:30

Oh Get me 😃

You're a boffin 😃

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CuriousMama · 01/04/2023 13:09

motherofkevinnotperry · 01/04/2023 13:01

I'm not at all ignorant of the south or north or Scotland but I do find many are very opinionated based on no personal experience.

I do a lot of long distance walks and meet people from all over. Rarely meet a bad one. Yes people do judge without actually meeting many people from different regions.

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DanceToTheMusicInMyHead · 01/04/2023 13:09

I have an exceptionally detailed knowledge of Scottish geography as a result of a job I had when I was a student - I can accurately place tiny villages and often recall post code areas. Comparatively I always feel my English geography knowledge is poor, especially southern England (though this thread shows me that I'm probably not as bad as I thought 😜)

ViscountessBridgerton · 01/04/2023 13:10

I grew up in the South East and now live 'tup north'. I generally think southerners are more ignorant about the North than other way round. I know people joke about 'anything above Watford Gap' etc but I've met people who genuinely think like that and have no desire to go north of London. More fool them I say, tis lush up here.

Bearpawk · 01/04/2023 13:12

I'm northern. Lived on the south coast for 20 years. Lots of my northern acquaintances seem set on the idea that I live in London (I'm over an hour away)

Cocteautriplet · 01/04/2023 13:12

I’m a southerner and up until a few years ago I thought Manchester was really far north when of course in reality it really isn’t. I kind of like not knowing exactly where all the major northern towns are - makes them seem more enticing and mysterious somehow. Like many having watched happy valley I really want to explore West Yorkshire now! I also have a bucket list dream of walking from lands end to John o groats someday so I can get a real feel of our different regions of our beautiful country!

BelindaBears · 01/04/2023 13:13

The Home Counties is all much of a muchness. Bedfordshire, Buckinghamshire, all that bollocks. Which bits are north of London or south of London or whatever, I don’t really know.

I’ve got a reasonable grasp of the geography of the south coast and the south west though, because they feel like proper towns with their own histories and identities that don’t just exist for people to live in who work in London.

But equally I’m not offended by the ignorance of southerners who don’t get the distinction between say Middlesbrough and Newcastle either.

TheOtherHotstepper · 01/04/2023 13:14

Easterfunbun · 01/04/2023 12:25

I literally live 2.5 miles from England’s most central point. Makes going on holiday a bit of a treat as most locations are all fairly similar in distance. Excluding Scotland of course.

From the actual central point, or where the monument is?

Either way you're three hours away from the nearest coast and the Seaview Guesthouse Rugby is just a myth.

slowquickstep · 01/04/2023 13:23

Tryphenia · 01/04/2023 10:37

It is near London, though. In the sense that Oxford is ‘near London’. It’s only eighty miles or so away from central London.

Not British, but lived in the UK for 25 years, mostly in London, Midlands and south of England, but did a fair bit of travelling and spent time regularly in Scotland, Wales and the north of England. Like a pp, I’d say I had a reasonable knowledge of UK geography.

Only 60 miles from central Oxford to central London.

Tryphenia · 01/04/2023 13:24

I was talking about Swindon. I lived in Oxford for years and commuted for a while into a job on Regent St on the 6 am Oxford Tube!

Tryphenia · 01/04/2023 13:25

Tryphenia · 01/04/2023 13:24

I was talking about Swindon. I lived in Oxford for years and commuted for a while into a job on Regent St on the 6 am Oxford Tube!

Sorry, that was to @slowquickstep!

NooNakedJacuzziness · 01/04/2023 13:38

Do other countries have the weird north/south divide that we do? Do people in southern Spain dislike people in Northern Spain and vice versa or is it just a Brit thing?

Cocteautriplet · 01/04/2023 13:49

I think northern inhabitants of both italy and Spain are a bit snooty about their southern compatriots viewing them as less sophisticated and a bit more country bumpkin ish.

ClassicLib · 01/04/2023 13:50

NooNakedJacuzziness · 01/04/2023 13:38

Do other countries have the weird north/south divide that we do? Do people in southern Spain dislike people in Northern Spain and vice versa or is it just a Brit thing?

If anything, the North / South divide in Italy is even bigger than that of England, but it’s the north which is rich & posh and the south which is poor and underdeveloped.
I used to work with a guy from Bergamo, in northern Italy, or ‘near Switzerland’ as he described it. When I told him that we were planning a holiday in Naples, he was appalled. He told me that the city was ‘near Africa’, he warned me that it was very dangerous, it was filthy, it was full of illiterate peasants and criminals and to be very careful. I asked him if he had ever been to Naples himself. He looked horrified at the prospect : ‘Of course not!’, he replied…

BabsDylan · 01/04/2023 13:51

@Tryphenia does the Oxford tube still exist?
I’d completely forgotten about it and never see it anymore.

CoraDora · 01/04/2023 13:56

I'm a southerner and find it weird driving up North as I don't know the geography of places at all. Down here if I see a road sign that says Portsmouth one direction and Guildford the other then I have my bearings. Driving in Yorkshire I see place names but have no idea what direction the roads would take me. Obviously a sat nav helps but I wouldn't know if I wanted to travel towards Goole or Sheffield or Beverley.

DontMakeMeShushYou · 01/04/2023 14:07

Botw1 · 01/04/2023 11:54

From where I'm sitting Swindon is near London

Do you know where Glasgow is in relation to Fife?

Yes! They're pretty close to each other. As close as Swindon and London at any rate. 😂