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Easter eggs and Ramadan

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LottleEsme · 31/03/2023 05:46

Help!
I teach a small class of children and I was planning on collecting a little Easter egg each for them this morning as a gift for their hard work. 3 of my group are fasting for Ramadan and I don't want to leave them out! How do I do this?! They're amazing pupils and I love to show them how much I appreciate them.

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GoodChat · 31/03/2023 14:15

SleepingStandingUp · 31/03/2023 13:18

"don't get me in trouble for spoiling your appetite, no one is to eat their egg until Mommy or Daddy say so, OK?"

They're teenagers Grin

Steradent · 31/03/2023 14:18

sashh · 31/03/2023 10:21

OP

Put it in your plan as 'equality and diversity' content.

When I used to teach the BTEC Equality and Diversity unit my students would end up with loads of things, red envelopes with a penny in for Luna New Year, Indian sweets for Diwali all sorts of bits and pieces depending on when I was teaching it.

DEI, is an HR slogan, it is not the answer to those who lack a moral compass to live their life.

Steradent · 31/03/2023 14:21

shard5 · 31/03/2023 13:55

I doubt all Christian kids wait until Easter Sunday to eat their eggs.

That's the families moral code/world view, it's what keeps the unit together and it enables children to obtain the best outcome.

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7Worfs · 31/03/2023 14:22

The posters saying it’s just the teacher trying to do something nice - nice for whom exactly?

Most chocolate is full of palm oil and rapeseed oil. She’s not “doing a nice thing” - she is feeding them insulin resistance and the myriad problems that follow.

And don’t start with “it’s just one egg, chill out” - children get dozens of “treats” from well meaning relatives, friends, neighbours, clubs and hobbies, teachers, at least twice a year, then add birthdays, parties, holidays, it never bloody ends.

Go to the weight loss section to see those children’s future. Except they would get obese much earlier than our generation.

SleepingStandingUp · 31/03/2023 14:30

Rowthe · 31/03/2023 13:43

These are teenagers- they dont want a colouring book, and mummy and daddy dpnt need to worry about them spoiling their appetite. 🙄

Tbf is missed the teenage bit. In which case, "here's an egg" is enough, they know when they can have them

Steradent · 31/03/2023 14:34

7Worfs · 31/03/2023 14:22

The posters saying it’s just the teacher trying to do something nice - nice for whom exactly?

Most chocolate is full of palm oil and rapeseed oil. She’s not “doing a nice thing” - she is feeding them insulin resistance and the myriad problems that follow.

And don’t start with “it’s just one egg, chill out” - children get dozens of “treats” from well meaning relatives, friends, neighbours, clubs and hobbies, teachers, at least twice a year, then add birthdays, parties, holidays, it never bloody ends.

Go to the weight loss section to see those children’s future. Except they would get obese much earlier than our generation.

When my children were little, Teachers thought that they could interfer in family weekend plans by giving homework that was age inappropriate and impossible for a child to complete alone and which stole hours of family time. For example once the homework could only be completed by a visit to a woodland.

Teachers now think that they have the right to remove parental rights without a court order by renaming your child. They aren't medical professionals yet seem to deem themselves as experts in things they have no qualifications. Families are entitled to their own world view and DEI slogans aren't those of many families.

These people aren't who your daughter wants when she is labouring or have them write the speech at her wedding, who the heck do they think they are pushing their world views on others?

They are seem to work in a socially entitled culture that causes issues within a family that fosters problems not the best outcome for children in my experience.

Saying that the UK has had a long tradition of chocolate eggs that parents traditionally saved until Ester Sunday.

Families have to negotiate these things in life, a small chocolate egg is small fry in my opinion.

7Worfs · 31/03/2023 15:02

@Steradent I agree that there are much bigger worries, but it’s the aggregated amount of cheap “chocolate” thrown at children starting from nursery age.

If it was a small dark chocolate egg containing only cocoa, sugar and butter I won’t be bothered, but it’s always huge palm oil monstrosities.

I had gestational diabetes with my second, which will impact him for life! I can’t have randoms giving him food that is actively harmful for him.

Steradent · 31/03/2023 15:11

7Worfs · 31/03/2023 15:02

@Steradent I agree that there are much bigger worries, but it’s the aggregated amount of cheap “chocolate” thrown at children starting from nursery age.

If it was a small dark chocolate egg containing only cocoa, sugar and butter I won’t be bothered, but it’s always huge palm oil monstrosities.

I had gestational diabetes with my second, which will impact him for life! I can’t have randoms giving him food that is actively harmful for him.

I hear you.

When it was my children's birthday at school I would send Buttons, some parents sent in cheap sweets, some cake.

It is UK culture and we can control to an extent what our children eat. My friend has a daughter with a milk allergy she would eat the chocolate given by others and replace with more suitable and expensive chocolate instead for her child.

Reugny · 31/03/2023 15:14

sashh · 31/03/2023 08:15

They do but then as teens they regress.

I bought the cheapest felt tip pens in poundland and my class of age16+ students went crazy.

I started using them as a reward, this table did really good work last lesson so they can have these special pens.

What was so special? They had characters from Frozen on.

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Andanotherone01 · 31/03/2023 15:53

I had gestational diabetes with my second, which will impact him for life! I can’t have randoms giving him food that is actively harmful for him.
Then teach your kid not the take this food that will actively harm him! My daughter has a peanut allergy. From very young she has learnt to check with me before she eats a lot of things. The onus is on you and your son.

reluctantbrit · 31/03/2023 16:09

I doubt that teens are getting lots of eggs anymore, I found that DD got more from clubs/childcare/brownies than she gets now as a teen.

We got eggs at the office yesterday, together with our bonus payment letters. Plenty of money to buy our own but we still loved the eggs which our boss gave out.

Let them have some chocolate, they deserve it.

Sunshineandrainbow · 31/03/2023 16:19

Give them at the end of the day as they finish school.
Lovely idea, yes children get other eggs but my Dd used to love the ones she got given at brownies and football club.

7Worfs · 31/03/2023 16:26

@Andanotherone01 he’s 7 months old at the moment, so there’s time for that.

With my eldest chocolates were given to him before he could even say “Happy Christmas”.

loveinthe90s · 31/03/2023 16:34

7Worfs · 31/03/2023 16:26

@Andanotherone01 he’s 7 months old at the moment, so there’s time for that.

With my eldest chocolates were given to him before he could even say “Happy Christmas”.

Please don't police teenagers' food on behalf of their parents.

I'm pretty sure you don't have a teenager (you'll cringe when you look back at this)

7Worfs · 31/03/2023 17:34

It wasn’t mentioned in the OP that it’s teenagers.
And I am free to share a parental perspective, even if you think it’s policing.

Shesasuperfreak · 31/03/2023 17:49

My children would love stuffed dates or date biscuits and would find in thoughtful of the teacher so I'm not sure what pps are talking about.

They are both fasting teens so pretty much the demographic you are asking about.

neilyoungismyhero · 31/03/2023 17:55

7Worfs · 31/03/2023 08:38

Dreadful logic.
So “treating” strangers’ children with disgusting junk is OK? Is this really a treat for children or a cheap feel-good stunt for the adult?

As a rule, people should not be feeding random children junk, unless they’ve checked with the parents. I don’t even offer a Babybel or a homemade shortbread biscuit unless I’ve checked with the parent.

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Jeez...beam me up Scotty

viques · 31/03/2023 17:55

It’s a funny thing but I don’t think anyone has said that the OP shouldn’t be giving Easter eggs to children who might be observing Lent! A lot easier I would have thought for a child who is fasting to wait until sundown for a choccy egg than one who has given up chocolate for lent and has to hang on for a week and a bit …………🙂

Zwicky · 31/03/2023 18:13

I don’t “let” my dc eat Easter eggs during lent. They are grown-ass adults and teens so I can’t exactly stop them but I wouldn’t worry too much about giving eggs to a mixed faith group. Some will keep them until they break their fast - either Easter or sunset. Most will eat them straight away. If they are old enough to fast then they are old enough to decide how observant they want to be. Nobody will think you are mean though.

reluctantbrit · 31/03/2023 18:19

viques · 31/03/2023 17:55

It’s a funny thing but I don’t think anyone has said that the OP shouldn’t be giving Easter eggs to children who might be observing Lent! A lot easier I would have thought for a child who is fasting to wait until sundown for a choccy egg than one who has given up chocolate for lent and has to hang on for a week and a bit …………🙂

DD's friend gave up chocolate for lent. She would happily accept the egg and eat it on Easter Sunday.

I am sure if a child made the decision to give up chocolate he/she is old enough to wait.

GoodChat · 31/03/2023 18:21

viques · 31/03/2023 17:55

It’s a funny thing but I don’t think anyone has said that the OP shouldn’t be giving Easter eggs to children who might be observing Lent! A lot easier I would have thought for a child who is fasting to wait until sundown for a choccy egg than one who has given up chocolate for lent and has to hang on for a week and a bit …………🙂

Virtue signalling, that's why.

CutOffs · 31/03/2023 18:26

My daughter is 14 and a couple of her teachers bought Easter eggs for the class. Some of the children that were fasting took one home to eat later, a couple chose to not have one.

MrsDoylesDoily · 31/03/2023 18:27

LottleEsme · 31/03/2023 07:02

Thanks everyone - I'm grateful.
Yes, I know they break their fast in the early hours - I just feel a bit cruel giving them something edible when they can't eat it straight away - don't want to tempt them cruelly!

They're teenagers - should have said but I always try and alter a few little details just in case!

I just feel a bit cruel giving them something edible when they can't eat it straight away - don't want to tempt them cruelly!

Oh don't be so silly.

By the end of the day they'll have managed to leave a house with food in the cupboards and gone to school, managed to avoid the snack bar, the dinner hall and anything their friends might be eating/drinking.

I'm sure they can make it home with a small chocolate egg in their bag and if they can't and choose to eat it, well they're teenagers so that's their own choice.

M340 · 31/03/2023 18:39

Shesasuperfreak · 31/03/2023 05:55

Just buy generic chocolates.

Or something with dates in it as dates are traditionally used to break the fast. That could be date cookies or just stuffed dates.

Baklava is good too. If you have a Middle Eastern shop they have lots of budget options otherwise Amazon is good.

Why? It's Easter?

What children are going to enjoy taking dates home 😂

OP, get the Easter eggs. It's a lovely thing for all the children. The children observing Ramadan break their fast, and children tend to not do it as much from what I can see in my area.

M340 · 31/03/2023 18:39

Plus they've probably got enough dates already.

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