Starting again in Ireland?

[secretmumoffour]

This country has just gone to pot! Everything is so expensive! Council tax has gone up 5%, water 10%, food.... I've lost count....but wages.... not a thing! (Public sector) nothing works anymore! Bin collections are a joke, postal services don't work.... can't see a GP or get an ambulance if we need one.... so, any pros or cons to leaving the dictatorship that has become this country and relocating to the Republic of Ireland? I'm already a citizen so that's not an issue. I have a professional job currently that I've looked into doing over there and should be fairly easily doable...

Ireland isn't a cheap country, and the public health services are really straining at the seams.
Where in Ireland are you thinking of living?

Others will have more knowledge than me but I think you may be mistaken if you think it's significantly cheaper to live in the RoI then here.

The Republic of Ireland does not have a health service like the the NHS. GP appointments cost c60 euros, A&E consultations (without GP referral) c100 euros, each night spent in hospital c80 euros. Be careful what you wish for !

If you know so little about Ireland that you think it’s a cheaper alternative to living in the UK, please stay where you are.

I never said I was under any illusion it would be any cheaper to live. I simply mean this country, politically, is a joke. The public order bill for a start.... not to mention the minimum service level bill. It's becoming more of a dictatorship than a democracy

Erhm our Cost of Living is through the roof, we have a housing crisis. Inflation is massive. Rent is astronomical and a huge homeless people issue. Honestly op have you done any research?

What do you know about our politics that you think it would be better?

This isn true
€100 A&E cost was scrapped in the last budget
No charge for overnight hospital stays until you have private insurance

Ireland has a huge housing crisis, your main problem will be finding anywhere to live

You need private health insurance which is expensive unless you are low wages then everything is free

Don't do it. It looks great on paper but nothing works in practice.

Ireland is not cheap as another poster said health care, dentists, consultants etc are very expensive.

Housing is hard to source and expensive.

Where are you thinking of moving to?

Well, i like it here, but on 36k pa I get by, i'm not desperately worried about money but I only have enough. I save 50 euro a week thankfully but that's it. I have to pay 47 per month for laya health insurance which is a just in case thing. About 300 per year for rubbish and recycling. Luckily I walk to work.
I'd like to move to a bigger nicer house but can't afford to! saying that, can't complain, where I live is near mountains, sea, a city.

Waiting lists for everything are just chock full here too. If you have to go to a hospital that's free but if you work it's going to be 55 euro to go and see the gp.

One of my best friends is English so don't mind yerwan upthread.

‘simply mean this country, politically, is a joke’ The two largest parties in Ireland, who almost from the creation of the state have been at times bitter enemies, have carved up power between them since the last election in a coalition propped up by the Green Party. Sinn Fein is on course to be the biggest party at the next election. If you know so little about Irish politics, the system of government in Ireland and indeed public services you need to do a lot more research. You seem ignorant tbh

This isn't true either.
You only get the free/discounted stuff e.g. medical cards, benefits etc if you're on low wages and either an Irish national who's lived there your whole life OR paid at least a year's worth of PRSI (I assume the OP isn't an asylum seeker).

If you spend any time on the Ireland subreddit you’ll see it’s not all sweetness and light down there either. Massive housing crisis, their health service is also under pressure, COL still a huge issue. Same shit, different bucket.

Not only will you have to pay for your GP, you will be doing well to find one that can take you on.
If you are buying a house you may have a chance but you havent a hope of finding a place to rent except through pure blind luck or word of mouth through family.
Ambulance service not at crisis stage but hospitals pretty much are in many parts, people on trolleys for days never mind hours
It could still be an option for you but i would really check all the facts and figures first

Really, it depends on where you are thinking of living. But even in rural areas rental accommodation is in short supply. Are you thinking of buying?
Ireland is a beautiful country and, as long as you don't have rose tinted glasses, then it can be a great place to live.

Do you have equity? In a house that you own in the UK.

Because although Irish house prices are not cheap, they are cheap compared to LONDON. If you were selling up in London and heading to a town in Ireland, you could get a nice place and a good life.

Even though I'm Irish, I'd like to take a couple of weeks off work and do a tour of Ireland, staying in a 3 star hotel (let's not go mad) in about 10 towns in Ireland. Not in to anything too remote. See where I like.

If you can get a job paying well go. Loads of my family are there & housing is expensive but they have good lifestyles.

I can't see our economy recovering too much tbh, it's been crap for decades

If you qualify for a medical card, yes everything is free.... But on the public system where the wait list for appointments, scan etc is often years long.

@Eyerollcentral bit harsh.
I think about going to spain sometimes. I speak the language, I love the food, the weather, the lifestyle, I know that property is a bit cheaper than here. I don't know much about spanish politics to be honest but that doesn't (in my opinion) make it ''ignorant'' to mull over one's options.
@secretmumoffour has only posted on mumsnet. She hasn't put her house up for sale yet.

"In 2021 Irish GDP/capita was $100,129 compared to $47,508 for the UK"

And wealth is Ireland is more evenly spread similar to other Euro countries. The UK is very unevenly distributed

We do have property with equity in the UK and on the research I've done for my job there seems to be schemes to help with relocation fees anyway to some extent. I have family over there but it's options between there or further afield like Australia (have friends who migrated out there a few years ago and love it but fear it's a bit far for us) obviously we would intend on getting more information and spending some real time over there before making final decisons

Be prepared to spend a lot on private health insurance.

Politics there is almost as much a mess as here.

Anti-social behaviour is as bad.