Pay grandparents and people who've taken retirement

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To look after grandchildren? People are struggling for childcare surely this could ease the situation? Obviously there are people that don't have parents who could do this.

Im not sure what you mean? Emotive bile? Where?

@Dacadactyl

Telling people that they're not raising their own children if they use any childcare before school age is emotive bile.

Did your kids go to school or did you home school them? If you did send them, do you think their teachers raised them?

@Anotherturnipforthebooks no, actually, YOU said that. Not me.

I said "it doesnt matter what i think".

Erm... you mean all those retired people aged over 50 who the government is trying to persuade to get back into full-time employment?

@Dacadactyl

What is wrong with you? Calm down.

I was adding to these points:

Poster 1: And grandparents are going to be monitored by Ofsted and use the EYFS framework are they? 🤨

Poster 2: Parents manage to raise kids without a framework or Ofsted

My point (which you seem determined to misconstrue) is that most parents do use at least 15 hrs of pre-school from age 3 so MOST parents (including SAHM) do draw on the expertise of Ofsted registered providers using the EYFS framework before their child starts school.

I don't know why you jumped on this and again, insulting parents for accessing education and social development opportunities for their kids is ridiculous. I bet you happily sent all your kids off to school at age 4!

@Anotherturnipforthebooks I'm perfectly calm thanks.

For the record, I have insulted no-one. If you have extrapolated things from my post, that is on you.

I'm glad youre happy with the decisions you made regarding your children's preschool care and later education.

I am also happy with the decisions I made.

Worked part time with my eldest two, stayed at home with my third until he started school, then part time. Thoroughly enjoyed the baby and toddler years. I find the teen years the hardest!

@Dacadactyl

Telling people who access childcare that they aren't raising their own children is insulting. And you know it is.

My parents wouldn't do this.

I already look after mine one day per week. I'm not well enough to manage more.

I did not say that. YOU said it.

I am not getting into a back and forth argument about it and this will be my last post to you.

@MissyB1 thanks for answering. I was curious because I would only do it again for my own children. I wouldnt be keen on dping it for grandkids, so its interesting to hear from your perspective.

@Dacadactyl

No, I didn't say that all. As part of raising their own children, MOST parents do access formal pre-school care. That is not the same as saying that they get someone else to raise their kids for them, (which is both vicious and incorrect).

I have my GCs one day a week and still work. Trust me, the day I have them is far harder work than work!
I can't take early retirement as I don't think I could cope with more

I am lucky to be 55 and exactly 23 days away from retirement. My husband same age is 18 days away from retirement. I babysat my 2 amazing grandmonsters before school (6 am most days) fed them breakfast and dropped them off.. a few days a week i had to do the pick up also. I was fortunate to own my own business so i could work around my daughter and her husbands hours. We are moving abroad in 24 days..but guess what? our two goddaughters are there!! they are old enough to be alone for an hour or two (as long as the oldest is home...she is 13..youngest 10) but we will be happy to watch them when needed and we are actually right now trying to convince their parents to have a week alone on holiday. I would never charge as I have always done it because I love the children in our family. HOWEVER I would not take it on as a job ever. I am retiring!!!! I do not want to be in a position that i HAVE to babysit.

I'm assuming you are young, OP?

I'm almost retiring age and you could not offer me enough money to convince me to childmind. I don't have any where near the energy necessary to mind pre-school children for a whole day.

I would genuinely be ill and exhausted after the first week. I remember thinking that my own mother didn't help out much when my kids were small. I now realise that being 30 years older than I was makes a huge difference in how tiring children are.

I want my parents to enjoy being grandparents. They've done their time raising children. Now I want them to be able to enjoy the children on their own terms. We visit regularly. Normally I turn up with ingredients and cook for them while they play games or read with the dc. My grandma's role was always one of the bountiful, fun grandma. I don't want my dc to have that relationship with my parents.

I think adding money to the situation could bring tension. What happens when your 'employee' feeds the dc something your don't approve of? Or takes them somewhere you'd rather they hadn't? (I'm thinking Muddy park just before pick up, or shopping in town and buying toys - nothing dangerous or inappropriate). Do you 'fire' the grandparents?

if you ahve retired in your 50s or 60s it would be hard to go back to work, out of choice,
what is the big deal?
it is your choice.