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Does homeopathy work?

199 replies

arbitraryarsehole · 12/03/2023 16:12

Interested in views from people who have had homeopathic treatments please. I'm open minded to alternative medicine but also don't want to waste my money if there is no benefit. Thanks 😊

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Marynotsocontrary · 12/03/2023 18:42

QueenOfHiraeth · 12/03/2023 18:32

You will never get rational answers about homeopathy on Mumsnet, just a horde of dogmatic people who insist it cannot work so have never tried it.

A friend of mine worked in conventional health for years then had a similar experience to @SammyScrounge with one of her children. As a result she retrained as a homeopath (4 year degree plus ongoing CPD) so she has, on occasion, sent treatments for me or the DCs. Like with conventional medicine some has worked and some hasn't but, on the whole, her "hit rate" has been well above what I, as a scientist, expected particularly as we have not been invested in it working but have approached it with open minded curiosity

Studies have shown quite conclusively that the 'hit rate' is not above that of a placebo though.
I have tried it btw. It didn't work. Maybe I was too sceptical😅

CiaoBellisima · 12/03/2023 18:45

No, it’s water.

if you had cancer, would you rather be offered chemotherapy or homeopathy?

Runningonempty01 · 12/03/2023 18:46

The one positive of homeopathy is the low risk of side effects as its basically just water. Unless you count the risk of someone foregoing vital conventional medicine for a serious condition.

Interested in this thread?

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Dinopawus · 12/03/2023 18:53

DojaPhat · 12/03/2023 18:12

Do herbal teas fall under this? I regularly drink some sort of concoction with turmeric among other things and it always makes me feel better of an evening especially when I'm quite tired/anxious. But I think the key is to do your research and not buy £70 tablets from someone online claiming its the cure to everything.

No. Herbal teas contain herbs, so while I would be cautious about their health benefits, they contain some active ingredients.

The point if homeopathy is that it is diluted to the point of uselessness. Posters on this thread talking about remedies that worked are mostly referring to alternative and complementary therapies.

GordonBennett345 · 12/03/2023 18:53

SertralineAndTherapy · 12/03/2023 17:40

😂

walkersareback · 12/03/2023 18:54

I was firmly in the No camp but then I was diagnosed with bowel cancer.

In checking the tumour and part of the bowel that was removed nodes were also removed to see if there were any cancer cells were in the nodes. If a single cancer cell was found I would have had to have chemo - luckily none were found.

If one single cancer cell can move and reproduce and cause a fatal tumour why can't a molecule of something in homeopathic medicine have an effect? I am not sure if I am on board with the like cures like aspect of homeopathy but I am open to it.

OP - I hope that you find what you need.

Lennybenny · 12/03/2023 18:56

Yes. Used it on my ds for warts. Both had nobidea what it was. Very stubborn finger warts and leg warts as well so not basic easily treated things either.
We use it alot for anxiety/stress/sleeping.

walkersareback · 12/03/2023 18:57

Just to add I am very very pro conventional medicine - I would never suggest that anyone only use alternative medicine - I think conventional and alternative CAN work together - neither should just be dismissed out of hand.

FloydPepper · 12/03/2023 19:00

It does not and cannot work
at best it’s well meaning twaddle, at worst a dangerous con

that said, placebo effect can be pretty powerful

Possiblynotever · 12/03/2023 19:01

Yes, but you need to go to a highly specialised doctor who, after a very through visit, will give you the remedy. It worked on me when I was pregnant, for my daughter when she was teething, it worked in my recurring thrush and for insomnia.

WuTangGran · 12/03/2023 19:03

If alternative medicine worked, it would be called medicine.

Runningonempty01 · 12/03/2023 19:08

Warts are absolutely classic for being cured by alternative medicine, as in nearly all cases the immune system finally kicks in and the warts just go. If that happens the week after you pay for homeopathic treatment that's pretty convincing. Also works for the rub a toad on the warts, kill it and bury it under a tree type twaddle!

MissEira · 12/03/2023 19:13

Ive had hayfever my entire life to the point where i get asthma in spring-autumn. And pet hair allergies.
Tried everything as a child. In the end the doctors had me on daily antihistamines and daily cortison inhaler for 9months/year. When my kids started showing signs of it i looked into it again and found a homeopath who used to work as a gp. Shes fully licensed as a gp, but chose homeopathy over traditional medicine.

We now take her globulis a couple times a year (my kids once in spring when it starts and i usually need 2 doses).
We have 2 cats and a dog in the house now and no more issues!

We only use her now as a doctor. My children have never used antibiotics in their lives. It was prescribed to them a couple times when i went to see a gp, because our homeopath was away. I always waited with it until i could reach her first and she always helped without strong meds.

Letstaketotheskies · 12/03/2023 19:18
This is a nice explanation of how homeopathy is said to work.
faffadoodledo · 12/03/2023 19:21

I'm unconvinced
But SIL is a GP and keeps a homeopathic first aid kit in the house. And did courses funded by the NHS in her early working life (she's just retired)

MrsTerryPratchett · 12/03/2023 19:22

walkersareback · 12/03/2023 18:54

I was firmly in the No camp but then I was diagnosed with bowel cancer.

In checking the tumour and part of the bowel that was removed nodes were also removed to see if there were any cancer cells were in the nodes. If a single cancer cell was found I would have had to have chemo - luckily none were found.

If one single cancer cell can move and reproduce and cause a fatal tumour why can't a molecule of something in homeopathic medicine have an effect? I am not sure if I am on board with the like cures like aspect of homeopathy but I am open to it.

OP - I hope that you find what you need.

We have observed it does with cancer.

We have also observed it doesn't with expensive water (homeopathy).

This really isn't rocket science.

MrsTerryPratchett · 12/03/2023 19:22

faffadoodledo · 12/03/2023 19:21

I'm unconvinced
But SIL is a GP and keeps a homeopathic first aid kit in the house. And did courses funded by the NHS in her early working life (she's just retired)

The placebo effect works even if you are told it's the placebo effect.

You brain is great. Sugar pills, not so much.

Cleargreysky · 12/03/2023 19:26

Asking for anecdotes won’t help you. There are placebo effects, people who got better after homeopathy and attribute it to that, but actually would have got better anyway and so on.

That is why we have properly designed scientific studies to establish what works. And those studies show comprehensively that homeopathy does not work any better than a placebo.

However, the placebo effect is a real effect, so if your condition is one that can be improved via a placebo, it might be worth paying for alternative therapy.

BramblyHedgeMouse · 12/03/2023 19:29

walkersareback · 12/03/2023 18:54

I was firmly in the No camp but then I was diagnosed with bowel cancer.

In checking the tumour and part of the bowel that was removed nodes were also removed to see if there were any cancer cells were in the nodes. If a single cancer cell was found I would have had to have chemo - luckily none were found.

If one single cancer cell can move and reproduce and cause a fatal tumour why can't a molecule of something in homeopathic medicine have an effect? I am not sure if I am on board with the like cures like aspect of homeopathy but I am open to it.

OP - I hope that you find what you need.

Molecules and cells are not the same thing.
Cells multiply in the body, and are much much bigger than single molecules to start with.
A single molecule cannot reproduce itself. Besides which, in homeopathic treatments, there is no molecule left because they have been diluted too much.

Cleargreysky · 12/03/2023 19:31

arbitraryarsehole · 12/03/2023 16:38

Some of these answers are so predictable 🙄 & it's why I asked for answers from people who've had homeopathic treatments.

I'm not anti evidence based medicine at all but I also believe there's more to life. I don't need to see a research paper on everything, I can consider peoples lived experiences to be evidence too.

No. No. Lived experience is not valid data for whether medicines work. It really isn’t. You actually do need to read research papers on properly designed trials to know if a treatment works. We had lived experience as the sole evidence base for healing treatments for all of human history before the scientific method of enquirer was developed. And that led to people dying horribly and in terrible pain.

TwilightSilhouette · 12/03/2023 19:33

It only works as a placebo. It’s just plain water.

Cleargreysky · 12/03/2023 19:35

To be clear, lived experience of homeopathy is not evidence as you have no way of telling if the effect was a placebo effect, no way of knowing if the person would have got better anyway, and no way of knowing if the one person who was helped by the homeopath is hiding the 1000 people who were not.
That is why you need properly designed trials.

ShiverOfSharks · 12/03/2023 19:37

Homeopathic teething powders are... sugar. Babies like sugar, and it helps them with pain. When very tiny babies have blood taken, they are given a little sugar syrup by dropper, because it's proven to soothe them and help them with the pain. That, and the placebo effect does work on them by working on their caregiver. Knock yourself out giving them the powder if you want, and the sugar may well comfort them, but you are in fact just giving them a big old sachet of expensive sugar.

Homeopathy has been conclusively proven to be indistinguishable from placebo in hundreds of tests and studies. The placebo effect is powerful, and flexible, and utterly fascinating, and can have genuinely dramatic effects. And homeopathic remedies are placebos. You can take expensive sugar pills if you must, but don't fool yourself while you do it.

Emmamoo89 · 12/03/2023 19:37

Nope

AlisonDonut · 12/03/2023 19:38

faffadoodledo · 12/03/2023 19:21

I'm unconvinced
But SIL is a GP and keeps a homeopathic first aid kit in the house. And did courses funded by the NHS in her early working life (she's just retired)

You mean a bottle of water?