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Toxic, gossipy school - normal?

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AFriendToEveryoneIsAFriendToNoOne · 06/03/2023 20:50

My DS is in year 3. He goes to a small, very rural primary (110 or so children) and as time goes on I am really noticing what a gossipy place it is. He's my first child so I really don't know if this is normal or not, if I should continue to ignore, or do something about it. Like report it, but I don't actually have any proof so I probably can't anyway. I don't really mix with other parents too much. We're all on friendly terms and have had the odd cuppa at a playdate over the last few years but that's about it.

When I say gossip I don't mean the usual parent chit chat. It is a bit cliquey, but what you'd expect at such a small place. It does seem to have a higher than normal amount of mums (it's mostly mums, a handful of dads) that drop off and pick up and can stand around chatting for half hour at a time than I've heard of at other places.

What I'm becoming increasingly uncomfortable with is the level of detail and type of things that people know about other families and children. Most of the support staff at the school are also parents, or good friends with some parents. I don't want to give details in case it's outing but some of the stuff that's gossiped about/known about has so obviously come from people that work there chatting to their mates off the record.

What would you do as a parent? Or what do teachers think? Would you want this mentioned to the head or am I better just keeping my head down/beak out? It also worries me that if anything sensitive ever happens with our family/my child then it won't be kept secret as it should be!

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TheaBrandt · 07/03/2023 18:14

Village life. Everyone that I grew up with in our village now lives in the city. Nothing is secret.

AFriendToEveryoneIsAFriendToNoOne · 07/03/2023 22:03

DistrictCommissioner · 07/03/2023 18:13

I think there’s a difference between ‘did you hear about little Ottoline throwing a tantrum when Y4 got to have lunch first. My little Mirabelle was next to her’ sort of gossip, and ‘did you know school have made a MASH report about Augustus’.

I think the first is very common. The second is not, and shouldn’t be.

It's more along the lines of the second example, than the first. Sensitive and confidential rather that general gate prattle.

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AFriendToEveryoneIsAFriendToNoOne · 07/03/2023 22:05

Gilmorehill · 07/03/2023 18:08

I work in a small school in a village. My head won’t hire parents because she’s understandably concerned about lines being blurred. As a staff, we are careful to maintain a friendly distance from parents . I would hate to work in a place with blurry lines. I think our parents are a bit gossipy but it’s only natural. I don’t think you should worry about any indiscretion or gossip about your own child until it actually happens. You’re halfway through and don’t seem to have had any problems so far.

She sounds sensible!

I guess it's extremely difficult to recruit at the moment isn't it, and what're they supposed to do when the only people applying are parents?!

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LolaSmiles · 08/03/2023 13:12

It's more along the lines of the second example, than the first. Sensitive and confidential rather that general gate prattle
Then I would speak to the head and express your concerns that you've become aware of sensitive information about pupils and families that you're concerned could be a breach of confidentiality.

I've worked with colleagues who had their children in the same school. They were always very careful about what was shared and to be honest probably shared less than other parents of the "Timmy said..." variety type of talk mainly to avoid anyone getting wires crossed of thinking they were gossiping.

If someone is speaking beyond professional boundaries then it needs nipping in the bud because loose lips can cause a headache for the school, cause other parents to have concerns about staff professionalism, and worst case could involve a child being at risk of harm.

saraclara · 08/03/2023 16:02

I've worked with colleagues who had their children in the same school. They were always very careful about what was shared and to be honest probably shared less than other parents of the "Timmy said..." variety type of talk mainly to avoid anyone getting wires crossed of thinking they were gossiping.

Yep. When I was easing myself back into teaching after being a sahm and doing casual supply, I did some part time work at my DD's school for a couple of years. I was a locked vault when it came to talking about anything that happened in school, and my friends who were fellow parents totally respected that (and appreciated that me not mentioning other kids meant that I didn't gossip about theirs either).

I agree that you need to make an appointment with the head, OP, using the wording that @LolaSmiles used in her first paragraph.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 08/03/2023 16:07

AFriendToEveryoneIsAFriendToNoOne · 07/03/2023 22:03

It's more along the lines of the second example, than the first. Sensitive and confidential rather that general gate prattle.

That sort of thing does need reporting.

A good head will stay on top of that when they have quite a few parents on staff.

Its likely one person with a lack of discretion. Usually an example or two of the gossip will make it obvious who it is.

declutteringmymind · 08/03/2023 16:11

Report it.

Zozo1990 · 09/07/2024 22:18

I know this is an old thread but just wanted to know what happened? Did you speak to the HT? I'm also in a similar predicament where information has been leaked about me to other parents and it can only have come from school staff. Most of the support staff are from the small area/village we live in and know the parent community very well (childhood friends, family friends or relatives). It's immensely off-putting having three children there.

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