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Do you pronounce Merry and Mary the same?

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SpringIsSpringing23 · 26/02/2023 03:22

The main character in a book I'm reading is called Merry. She has to introduce herself as "Merry as in Merry Christmas, not the Virgin Mary" for other people to spell it right.

In my accent they are pronounced differently!

If Merry and Mary are pronounced the same then does Mary Berry's name rhyme? Are ferry and fairy the same? Very and vary?

OP posts:
olympicsrock · 26/02/2023 09:26

gwrachod · 26/02/2023 07:42

Mary is a much more common name. So, even if most people say Merry differently, it's similar, so
someone hearing it the first time may think they heard Mary.

This

eggandonion · 26/02/2023 09:34

Dh has a very strong Belfast accent, but pronounced them differently when i tested him. But we reckon Mary and Gerry from Derry would rhyme in a northwestern accent.
Mils eldest daughter, from Co.Down, is more of a Meery.

JaninaDuszejko · 26/02/2023 09:37

For those who are insisting giraffe and scarf rhyme please remember that in rhotic accents we pronounce our 'r's in the correct place rather than them being a modifier that extends the vowel sound as it is in southern England. In addition we don't stick them in at random (e.g. the dreadful draw-ring). So we don't get confusion between e.g. father and farther that exists in the non-rhotic accents.

Worst example I ever saw was a child's jigsaw with rhyming images e.g. ants in pants, frog on a log etc. But we were completely stumped by an image of two gentlemen wearing hats and nightclothes. Turns out it was the completely not rhyming at all 'farmers in pyjamas' 🙄.

purpledalmation · 26/02/2023 09:39

As the character says in the book. Not the same

TheClitterati · 26/02/2023 09:43

Mostly yes.

But to me pair, pare, Per, peer, pear are all pronounced the same too. Which apparently is very wrong. So what do I know?

pamplemoussed · 26/02/2023 09:43

What’s the book please?

fairtrauchled · 26/02/2023 09:45

I pronounce them differently.Merry rhymes with ferry and Mary rhymes with fairy
In my accent giraffe absolutely does not rhyme with scarf.

tuppacoffee · 26/02/2023 09:48

Mary to me is meer-y and leery

Merry is "merry" to rhyme with airy, fairy, dairy

My accent never matches up with English. I'm from NI but we have lots of Mary said Meeeeeerys here.

tuppacoffee · 26/02/2023 09:49

In NI fairy and ferry sound the same Grin

essentialumbrella · 26/02/2023 09:53

I've been listening to an audiobook of Anne of Green Gables and the American / Canadian narrator pronounces the surname of Anne's friend Diana as Berry when her name is Barry. I had to go back to the written book and check, it was annoying me so much.

Obviouspretzel · 26/02/2023 10:01

JaninaDuszejko · 26/02/2023 09:37

For those who are insisting giraffe and scarf rhyme please remember that in rhotic accents we pronounce our 'r's in the correct place rather than them being a modifier that extends the vowel sound as it is in southern England. In addition we don't stick them in at random (e.g. the dreadful draw-ring). So we don't get confusion between e.g. father and farther that exists in the non-rhotic accents.

Worst example I ever saw was a child's jigsaw with rhyming images e.g. ants in pants, frog on a log etc. But we were completely stumped by an image of two gentlemen wearing hats and nightclothes. Turns out it was the completely not rhyming at all 'farmers in pyjamas' 🙄.

What a stuck up post. What makes your accent more 'correct' than any other 😂

fluffylampbear · 26/02/2023 10:04

mary is like mare-ee (mare as in nightmare)

merry is shorter a bit like meh-rry

EezyOozy · 26/02/2023 10:09

I have a Scottish accent and would pronounce these completely differently.

Meh-ry

vs

May-ry

Grassisbluer · 26/02/2023 10:14

Obviouspretzel · 26/02/2023 10:01

What a stuck up post. What makes your accent more 'correct' than any other 😂

I agree with pp that authors of rhyming books in particular should be more aware of accents and rhotic vs non-rhotic differences. Giraffe and scarf don't rhyme for most people in NI or Scotland and that's just in the UK.

ItsCalledAConversation · 26/02/2023 10:16

Surely your book is American, where those words sound the same. Obviously they don’t sound the same with UK pronunciation. Not sure why this wasn’t obvious to you and you had to start a thread about it!

SunnyDaysAheadGang · 26/02/2023 10:19

No.

HiccupHorrendousHaddock · 26/02/2023 10:30

I can’t believe I spent my entire time in the shower this morning trying to get scarf to rhyme with giraffe.

Then I realised it’s not really scarf, it’s GIRAFFE that’s the problem.

I pronounce the A in Giraffe the same way I pronounce the A in Cat, Pan, Path or Laugh.

If I pronounced A like the Tweenies say Dance or Chance, then giraffe and scarf are much more similar.

Then swap the AR of Scarf from rhotic to non rhotic and they rhyme.

SpookyBlackCat · 26/02/2023 10:34

ItsCalledAConversation · 26/02/2023 10:16

Surely your book is American, where those words sound the same. Obviously they don’t sound the same with UK pronunciation. Not sure why this wasn’t obvious to you and you had to start a thread about it!

You have the most ironic user name EVER!

Anotheanon · 26/02/2023 10:41

I pronounce Mary and Merry differently from each other but if I say Mary Berry it comes out much quicker and the two words sound a lot more alike.

BeStrongLittleRodney · 26/02/2023 10:46

Obviouspretzel · 26/02/2023 10:01

What a stuck up post. What makes your accent more 'correct' than any other 😂

For me it is not so much stuck up as very confused. Why does your accent add an R that isn’t in the word?

User505351 · 26/02/2023 10:46

I read something recently about Sean Bean and how he needs to make a choice. He can either be Seen Been or Shawn Bawn but not Shawn Been.

It made me laugh. Words and accents are funny.

Grassisbluer · 26/02/2023 10:51

User505351 · 26/02/2023 10:46

I read something recently about Sean Bean and how he needs to make a choice. He can either be Seen Been or Shawn Bawn but not Shawn Been.

It made me laugh. Words and accents are funny.

Sean (or more properly Seán) is a different language, that's the issue there.

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 26/02/2023 10:57

If you've never heard of anyone being called Merry (I haven't) you could assume the person is called Mary?

ShowOfHands · 26/02/2023 11:03

JaninaDuszejko · 26/02/2023 09:37

For those who are insisting giraffe and scarf rhyme please remember that in rhotic accents we pronounce our 'r's in the correct place rather than them being a modifier that extends the vowel sound as it is in southern England. In addition we don't stick them in at random (e.g. the dreadful draw-ring). So we don't get confusion between e.g. father and farther that exists in the non-rhotic accents.

Worst example I ever saw was a child's jigsaw with rhyming images e.g. ants in pants, frog on a log etc. But we were completely stumped by an image of two gentlemen wearing hats and nightclothes. Turns out it was the completely not rhyming at all 'farmers in pyjamas' 🙄.

I know people will try and explain the intrusive r to you as a feature of a different accent to yours.

However, I'm going to be honest with you: we do it specifically to annoy you.

Crumpetdisappointment · 26/02/2023 11:04

wary mary

merry terry