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Help to identify this LOGBURNER pls?

23 replies

medianewbie · 22/02/2023 15:49

I've been donated this.
Told it's a 'Villager' but it's an older model so can't see it on their site.
Does anyone have one & can tell me more about it please?

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medianewbie · 22/02/2023 15:49

Pic would help !

Help to identify this LOGBURNER pls?
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medianewbie · 23/02/2023 10:24

Bump

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anunlikelyseahorse · 23/02/2023 11:07

It's a lovely looking beast! What do you want to know? Are you wanting advice re fitting or what fuel to burn or how much heat it gives out?

anunlikelyseahorse · 23/02/2023 11:08

If you want to fit it in that fire place your need to make the surround much bigger!

0o0o0o0 · 23/02/2023 11:21

I'm not sure it'd meet modern emissions standards. Please check the rules. my area is really polluted at night from log burners.

Lockheart · 23/02/2023 11:30

Why don't you just contact Villager?

MeganLogan · 23/02/2023 11:35

Is it this? www.village.co/uk/i/home-furniture/back-boiler-log-burner

medianewbie · 23/02/2023 20:27

@anunlikelyseahorse yes please, to all of those things :) I'm so grateful to have it, I'm in an old cold stone house with no insulation & we've been SO cold this winter

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medianewbie · 23/02/2023 20:29

It's not a back boiler one no buy yes it's very similar to that @MeganLogan

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Hawkins003 · 23/02/2023 20:29

MeganLogan · 23/02/2023 11:35

That looks the same design

bellac11 · 23/02/2023 20:30

It looks like a back boiler?

bellac11 · 23/02/2023 20:30

Oh I should have read on, so not a back boiler

lljkk · 23/02/2023 20:32

Is your chimney already lined?

ReadersD1gest · 23/02/2023 20:35

It's lovely, op.

Soontobe60 · 23/02/2023 20:36

The problem with this log burner is that to very old so won’t pass any emissions testing. You might be able to get a bloke from the pub to fit it for a few £££, but it’s not safe, and your buildings insurance could be invalidated.
My advice - don’t touch it with a barge pole!

ReadersD1gest · 23/02/2023 20:36

Soontobe60 · 23/02/2023 20:36

The problem with this log burner is that to very old so won’t pass any emissions testing. You might be able to get a bloke from the pub to fit it for a few £££, but it’s not safe, and your buildings insurance could be invalidated.
My advice - don’t touch it with a barge pole!

Aw Sad

Soontobe60 · 23/02/2023 20:44

More info: www.directstoves.com/resources/are-there-building-regulations-for-a-stove/

Do You Need Planning Permission to Install a Wood Burning Stove?

In the UK, you don’t need any prior planning permission to install a wood burner, if the work is carried out by a HETAS installer. In this case, your installer is qualified to certify the works themselves, and will issue a certificate of compliance as proof. This will be signed by your installer and used to notify your council of the building work.

If you fit your stove yourself, or have a non-HETAS installer do the job, you will need to tell your local Building Control department before you start any work. This isn’t strictly planning permission, but is a necessary step. When the work is complete, they will need to inspect it to ensure all building regulations have been met. This will be at your expense, so factor this into your stove budget. Be aware that failure to follow the guidelines could result in a penalty!

Once the stove is properly fitted, you will need to make sure you have a notice plate completed. This is another regulation that records all the details of your stove, hearth, chimney and flue. It should be placed by your hearth, electric meter or water stopcock.

If you live in a listed building, it is possible you might need proper planning permission. Check with your local council before hand, if you do.

You will also have to check whether you live in a smoke control area. If so, you will need to make sure you buy a DEFRA approved stove or an EcoDesign stove.

medianewbie · 23/02/2023 21:01

@Soontobe60 thank you this is very helpful. I don't live in a listed building. I've just checked & I don't live in a smoke control area. I opened the fireplace up at Xmas, had a sweep into to check it & give a Cert for insurance & he recommended a log / smokeless fuel burner due to chimney/ wind.

I appreciate this model is old. I don't have 4k for a new one & fitting which is going rate around here. I don't want a bloke from pub fitting it obviously, but I can see rhat I might have trouble getting a registered fitter to do it as there is no ID plate that I can see on it.

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Alphabet1spaghetti2 · 23/02/2023 21:12

@medianewbie Get your chimney sweep to assess it. It is occasionally possible to bring older stoves up to modern regulations rearing emissions. It’s a lovely stove and will probably heat 99% of you house with careful use and assuming you don’t live in a 20 bed mansion!
Well worth trying to save, but be aware that works will not be cheap. If your sweep cannot assess it, they will know someone worth asking for a quote/possibility’s.
Don’t give up just yet.

medianewbie · 23/02/2023 21:17

@Alphabet1spaghetti2
Thank You !
Yes, I'm going to try. It came to me in kindness so I'm hoping it will prove OK.

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anunlikelyseahorse · 23/02/2023 22:25

So, I have no idea on the legal side of things, I fitted a small wood burner when I lived in a converted lorry for a bit. I now live in a tumbling down cottage, and the wood burner was already installed. But what I've learned / been taught is this: your chimney needs to be properly lagged, you will need to get a professional fitter in for this, you'll also need a proper flue (don't skimp on these and make sure they are up to the required safety standard).
It looks as if your burner sits on the floor, so you'll need proper heat proof slabs underneath it. If you intend to put it in, in its current position you'll either need to bring the flue out of the fireplace or widen the existing hole.
My lorry was a bit of a botch job, but kept me warm, no way would I botch in my bricks and mortar home, insurance aside, the risks are far too great. Get a few fitters out for a quote, The specialists that re-lagged and put a new flue in for us were recommended by the chimney sweep I used (she was the one who said our burner needed a new flue as it wasn't safe).
In terms of heat, your stove will kick out a serious amount!! And with some hefty logs will keep going through the night, again make sure the area around it is completely clear of combustible materials, you may well need back and side fireproof plates if you intend to push it into the current fire cavity...you're fitters will be able to tell you.
Burning wise you want well seasoned wood, kiln dried will burn quicker and hotter, it's not my go to, as I don't think the drying process is hugely environmentally sound. But I'm lucky in that we have enough land to coppice our own trees, it's bloody hard work throughout the year so it's not an easy option, and Obviously this isn't practical for lots of folk, so if you're rural have a look at your nearest farm store, as often locally seasoned wood is available. If you have a garden willow, hazel, elder, alder and ash all grow reasonable quickly and are good for coppicing, but don't go for the fast growing conifers as they are very sappy and will gradually clog up your chimney, and it wouldn't surprise me if they release more particles into the environment. Similarly try and avoid using paper as a starter, get the dipped wax fire starters.
Oh I've mentioned elder...folklore suggests you don't cut it down, fine to 'trim' though! You could use coal (I used it in my lorry) but 1) the particles are really, really bad for the environment 2) I'm not sure it hasn't been banned? I'm talking well over twenty years ago when I had my lorry, I'm way too old, curmudgeonly and like my creature comforts too much (she says looking despairingly at the ivy creeping into the living room, and the brazen mouse making its home in the sofa) now for that lifestyle! I've put the mouse out several times but it keeps coming back and I don't have the heart to do it in...it's very cute with huge eyes and ears...!

anunlikelyseahorse · 23/02/2023 22:31

Also check the rope cord around the windows is fully intact.
Make sure there are no cracks or holes in the windows.
The two sticking out prongs are dampers, they open and close the grates, you want open when you start burning, and closed once the fire is going, I don't know about you particular make but some have a side vent too. You can get a temperature gauge which sits on the flue and warns you if your stove is burning too hot.

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