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Periodontitis disease- anyone have this and manage it?

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beck1976 · 17/02/2023 16:40

I am basically panicking as my dentist said I have periodontal disease, and I am scared as I’ve never had any dental problems before and my teeth have always been good.
I have had a gum shield for the last few years that I have to wear at night as I have bruxism, and he has me booked in for a deep clean next month to see if that helps my gums.
i feel so alone and constantly worried about it and ashamed, and feel like I can’t enjoy eating anymore. I can’t bear having to live with this for the rest of my life.
Has anyone got experiment of having this and has it improved over time?

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hoping2016 · 17/02/2023 22:40

I've been told I'm en route for this. Mine is definitely stress related (I also have endometriosis & adenomyosis both gynae issues but stress related too). I use corsodyl toothpaste and an electric toothbrush, along with tepee brushes and floss ...although not always great with the latter 2 but do try

XenoBitch · 17/02/2023 22:41

Btjdkfnn · 17/02/2023 22:35

A dexa scan is for bone density. You’d get it from
gp referral. I had one due to premature menopause. There was a lot of leg/hip scanning iirc

Ah, ok, I don't think my GP would even refer me to one. MY GP blames everything I see him for on anxiety.
I am so worried about how my teeth are moving. I have a friend who has had the same symptoms as me and is now seeing a maxfax surgeon, and cancer is being mentioned. Her private dentist picked up on it.. and I don't even have an NHS one. None where I live at all, and I am on UC so can't afford private. Even if it is just periodontal issues, treatment for that is in the £k.
I potentially have an infection that is eating my jawbone up, but I will have to pay privately to treat it. Is bonkers!

ohlalalalalalalalala · 17/02/2023 22:43

I have this too. Had quite a traumatic clean at the dentist recently and the lectures he was giving me! About how he’s sure it’s difficult with a family to get time to brush - of course I brush my teeth!!!

I have always struggled with flossing though. It gives me the complete fear. I can barely get the floss between my teeth and when I do it feels like I’m going to pull them out. There’s not a hope in hell I could use the brushes.

I did have a water flosser but was worried it could make it worse. Maybe I should try another and just use the gentle setting.

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beck1976 · 17/02/2023 22:45

Theblacksheepandme · 17/02/2023 22:00

Are any of you going through peri/menopause as declining levels of oestrogen can cause this?

Possibly peri menopause, hadn’t considered this could be a reason, but could explain it.

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BakedTattie · 17/02/2023 22:48

I had this, and major receding gums along with falling (down) of teeth.

going next month for gum surgery to basically pull my teeth back up and straighten my gums in order to fit veneers. All Nhs. And yes, a clinical need before anyone comes along saying nhs don’t do veneers. They do if a clinical need.

Theblacksheepandme · 17/02/2023 22:48

@Babymamma192
I got this one.

www.boots.ie/waterpik-black-cordless-plus-water-flosser-wp-462uk-10197181

ohlalalalalalalalala · 17/02/2023 22:48

It seems almost ridiculous that our teeth can give us so many problems.

BakedTattie · 17/02/2023 22:49

Just to add. My teeth problems are purely through severe morning sickness.

yay to being a woman.

Theblacksheepandme · 17/02/2023 22:50

beck1976 · 17/02/2023 22:45

Possibly peri menopause, hadn’t considered this could be a reason, but could explain it.

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HRT wont obviously reverse anything but could possibly help stop it progressing.

XenoBitch · 17/02/2023 22:53

ohlalalalalalalalala · 17/02/2023 22:48

It seems almost ridiculous that our teeth can give us so many problems.

I think it is criminal that there is pretty much no NHS dental care anymore.
Check ups are more than counting your teeth and cavities.. it is also looking for signs of oral cancer, gum disease etc.. things that can affect your overall health.
If you have a scary symptom in any part of your body, you can see a GP and if needed, get a 2 week referral to rule out cancer.
With teeth, you are fucked if you don't have a dentist. You could have all the signs of an oral cancer, but if you have no dentist... tough!

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beck1976 · 17/02/2023 22:55

hoping2016 · 17/02/2023 22:40

I've been told I'm en route for this. Mine is definitely stress related (I also have endometriosis & adenomyosis both gynae issues but stress related too). I use corsodyl toothpaste and an electric toothbrush, along with tepee brushes and floss ...although not always great with the latter 2 but do try

I can’t decide which toothpaste is the best to use. Have just bought oral b gum & enamel repair toothpaste to try so seeing how that goes. I have an oral b electric toothbrush which I have been using since last summer when my dentist advised me to get one, and I use listerine teeth & gum mouthwash as was advised listerine is the best one to use. Will probably try the other one they do advanced defence gum treatment after used up what I have.

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ohlalalalalalalalala · 17/02/2023 22:57

Absolutely @XenoBitch. I completely agree. It’s quite frankly terrifying the state that NHS dentistry is in.

ohlalalalalalalalala · 17/02/2023 22:58

Has anyone heard of an electric toothbrush making receding gums worse? I have read that once or twice on these threads so don’t use one pretty much for that reason.

XenoBitch · 17/02/2023 22:59

ohlalalalalalalalala · 17/02/2023 22:58

Has anyone heard of an electric toothbrush making receding gums worse? I have read that once or twice on these threads so don’t use one pretty much for that reason.

Only if you press too hard. Most electric toothbrushes will tell you if you do that.

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beck1976 · 17/02/2023 23:03

ohlalalalalalalalala · 17/02/2023 22:43

I have this too. Had quite a traumatic clean at the dentist recently and the lectures he was giving me! About how he’s sure it’s difficult with a family to get time to brush - of course I brush my teeth!!!

I have always struggled with flossing though. It gives me the complete fear. I can barely get the floss between my teeth and when I do it feels like I’m going to pull them out. There’s not a hope in hell I could use the brushes.

I did have a water flosser but was worried it could make it worse. Maybe I should try another and just use the gentle setting.

I am also not sure how I would manage to use floss or water pick, as I would most likely faint doing it. I panic about pulling my teeth out or getting the floss stuck. I would really like to be able to do it though if it helps but not sure how.

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ohlalalalalalalalala · 17/02/2023 23:06

The water flosser is definitely the less awful option. It’s a jet of water you can move away from your teeth at any time rather than something that feels like it’s stuck.

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Dental hospital is 50 miles from me... and have a triage system. No swelling or dying from pain... they wont see you.

I have no swelling, or pain. Just a tooth that is moving noticeably by the day, and pus leaking from around it.

fruitandfibreg · 18/02/2023 09:16

The smallest brush is a pink then an orange so if you can't get floss down there try one of those colours.

Shootingstarsparkle · 18/02/2023 12:45

beck1976 · 17/02/2023 16:40

I am basically panicking as my dentist said I have periodontal disease, and I am scared as I’ve never had any dental problems before and my teeth have always been good.
I have had a gum shield for the last few years that I have to wear at night as I have bruxism, and he has me booked in for a deep clean next month to see if that helps my gums.
i feel so alone and constantly worried about it and ashamed, and feel like I can’t enjoy eating anymore. I can’t bear having to live with this for the rest of my life.
Has anyone got experiment of having this and has it improved over time?

Hi @beck1976 - I have messaged you back on my dental thread I posted but just popped over on to yours to watch with interest!
I have bruxism too, quite aggressive and bite my tongue most nights in my sleep! I do have a gum guard but I just can’t get on with it and my gums always seem worse when I do actually wear it. I feel exactly the same as you do and wish I could get my old life back where I had nice teeth and gums! xx

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beck1976 · 18/02/2023 16:07

Shootingstarsparkle · 18/02/2023 12:45

Hi @beck1976 - I have messaged you back on my dental thread I posted but just popped over on to yours to watch with interest!
I have bruxism too, quite aggressive and bite my tongue most nights in my sleep! I do have a gum guard but I just can’t get on with it and my gums always seem worse when I do actually wear it. I feel exactly the same as you do and wish I could get my old life back where I had nice teeth and gums! xx

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Hi @Shootingstarsparkle its good to know I’m not alone as I felt like I was the only person in the world with this. I have got used to wearing my gum guard at night so it doesn’t bother me. It’s so hard knowing we will never have good gums again, but I will do anything I can to help them improve. Keep trying different toothpaste and mouthwash trying to work out which ones are best for this. My dentist said listerine is the best mouthwash brand as corsodyl stains. So I have just bought the advanced defence gum treatment one to see what that does. Have also ordered some good quality COQ10 capsules to take as saw some posts about this being really good for gum disease and looked it up myself and it’s on quite a few dentistry news articles saying how it helps gums improve, so fingers crossed xx

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DrNo007 · 18/02/2023 16:11

Friend of mine reckons he reversed this condition (his dentist was astonished) by rubbing white oak bark powder on his gums twice a day. I have no clue whether it would work for you OP but just thought I’d pass it on in case you wanted to try it.

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beck1976 · 18/02/2023 17:31

DrNo007 · 18/02/2023 16:11

Friend of mine reckons he reversed this condition (his dentist was astonished) by rubbing white oak bark powder on his gums twice a day. I have no clue whether it would work for you OP but just thought I’d pass it on in case you wanted to try it.

Oh that’s interesting. Thank you for that, I will look into it

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