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Back with a letter from 1840. Anyone like to help decipher? Pic attached

31 replies

OldTrot · 08/02/2023 11:00

Anyone care to help decipher this letter from Eliza?

I've got this far .::

? July 1

Dear Sirs

Excuse my writing but thought it necessary to enquire if the agreement is ready to be signed, under circumstances should like to ? ? ??

I am ?

Yours truly

Eliza ? Self (?)

??

Back with a letter from 1840. Anyone like to help decipher? Pic attached
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purplephone · 08/02/2023 11:03

Circumstances... should like to have it settled as I am likely to be from home...

That's what I think anyway

ProtectorExtraordinaryOfTheCantonsOfNim · 08/02/2023 11:03

I should like to have it settled as I am likely to be from home.

ProtectorExtraordinaryOfTheCantonsOfNim · 08/02/2023 11:04

Worth pointing out (if you hadn't already realised, which you probably had) that that looks like mourning stationary.

ProtectorExtraordinaryOfTheCantonsOfNim · 08/02/2023 11:06

I would have thought the word before the date is Wymondham

OldTrot · 08/02/2023 11:06

@ProtectorExtraordinaryOfTheCantonsOfNim that's a good point and yes, it is I believe

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FRIGATUS · 08/02/2023 11:07

Interesting! Never seen mourning stationery before!

OldTrot · 08/02/2023 11:08

Thanks all and yes I think the place is Wymondham now you say it

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OldTrot · 08/02/2023 11:08

@FRIGATUS it was quite a thing with the Victorians! They took death very seriously and respectfully

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Fifthtimelucky · 08/02/2023 11:10

The last line is the person it is addressed to. Hard to decipher, but something like

I B Paseroy Esq

purpledalmation · 08/02/2023 11:51

Excuse my writing but thought it necessary to enquire if the agreement is ready to be signed. Under circumstances should like to have it settled - as I am likely to be from home.

I am yours faithfully Elise/Elsie

Fairly easy to read but not very good English

purpledalmation · 08/02/2023 11:52

Or Eliza

electricmoccasins · 08/02/2023 12:11

I think it’s Eliza

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 08/02/2023 12:11

Fifthtimelucky · 08/02/2023 11:10

The last line is the person it is addressed to. Hard to decipher, but something like

I B Paseroy Esq

I think the surname is Pomeroy.

electricmoccasins · 08/02/2023 12:16

It’s signed:

‘ I am &c.’ (which was the Victorian version of ‘etc.’ or ‘et cetera’.)

It then says ‘Yours truly’

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 08/02/2023 12:17

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 08/02/2023 12:11

I think the surname is Pomeroy.

And they appear to be a firm of solicitors in Wymondham that's still there.

DinosApple · 08/02/2023 12:18

Yes I agree with Pomeroy.

Wallywobbles · 08/02/2023 12:20

Eliza & self I think.

DinosApple · 08/02/2023 12:20

I'd say Eliza Self with an initial in the middle. Self is a surname round these parts (East Anglia).

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 08/02/2023 12:38

Being a nosy type I googled Eliza Self Wymondham and found this

www.norfolkpubs.co.uk/wymondham/wymquh.htm

Wife of Edward Self licencee of the Queens Head. Interestingly his wife appears to have been the licensee before marrying him.

Is the letter def 1840? I know it says 40 in the corner but might that be an archive/filing reference and the letter is actually later?

OldTrot · 08/02/2023 13:24

Thanks all

I recognise your name @MrsDanversGlidesAgain - think we have a similar interest!

I think her name is Eliza Self and there's an initial in the middle

That's interesting about the 'etc' thing

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OldTrot · 08/02/2023 13:25

@MrsDanversGlidesAgain it's not definitely 1840.. could be a little later. Perhaps 1850 or so L

It isn't too much later I don't think

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OldTrot · 08/02/2023 13:25

And yes, I think it is 'I am, etc, yours truly!

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MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 08/02/2023 13:28

OldTrot · 08/02/2023 13:25

@MrsDanversGlidesAgain it's not definitely 1840.. could be a little later. Perhaps 1850 or so L

It isn't too much later I don't think

The reason I said I don't think it's 1840 is because the 40 is in the corner with a line under it and looks like a document number for papers in a file. Interesting, though, and I wonder what the transfer was. Do come back and tell us what you find out, I love this sort of stuff.

OldTrot · 08/02/2023 13:38

@MrsDanversGlidesAgain yep, it's different when you see it close up too. So it's not correct. I think it's 1850 onwards and not as late as getting close to 1900.

Well, I have heaps of these things! I also have a dolls house which I am slowly filling with antique pieces. I like the whole Victorian period - little bit of Georgian too

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AnotherSpare · 08/02/2023 14:02

I think she signs off

I am Sir
Yours truly
Eliza b Self