EPC rating

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My parents have put their house on the market after living there nearly 40 years. It is a 1930s semi however the EPC survey has given it an F rating.
It is all electric with night storage heaters, it is double glazed (not a new installation but none are blown etc) a new hot water tank installed last year with timer, loft insulation good. There is the means to have an open fire as the chimney is swept regularly but they never bother.
The recommendations to increase the rating all costs ££££ with minimal annual savings ie £200-£300 e.g. floor insulation to solid floors.
My mother is particularly upset but realistically the house is nearly 100 years old and it is never going to be as energy efficient as a new build.
If you were looking at an old house would you be shocked at the rating and would it put you off even viewing?
Thanks

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An F rating would potentially put me off purchasing an older house. We're currently looking on the market for an older house - for it to be an F is really bad if I'm honest (especially as a semi!), we're booked in to go and see an old detached stone vicarage and that's a D rating which is borderline for us! It's like you said, expensive to put the improvements in, so unless the price of their house really reflects that then it would be more off putting. All electric is expensive to run and given the current energy prices which are set to rise repeatedly it's going to be a big sticking point for people I think.

Yes, it would put me off.

I manage commercial property and we can't let anything e or below.

Who done the survey?

I think ultimately 2 years ago nobody would have blinked and/or given it much thought. The problem is how energy prices have gone up.

We had our house valued recently and I was surprised to hear how much energy efficiency is affecting prices now.

It's weird.

My house is classic Victorian terrace. We have floor board with gaps and would probably get a crap rating but it's the warmest house I've ever lived in and no mould because it breathes well!

If it’s priced to reflect work required to bring it up, then I wouldn’t rule it out.

I considered a flat recently and discounted it because F rating and that, along with some other issues, meant it didn’t make sense financially.

My house probably wouldn't get a good rating but it's the warmest house and it's fabulous.

The last thing I would do is fill in flooring; it would then turn it into one of these mould places. ..it may not always reflect....the reality

It might be worth finding out if there are any grants available in your area for energy efficiency works, new heating systems, etc. If there are, then make sure that is highlighted to potential buyers.

I agree. A good EPC rating does not mean a warm house.

They are getting another company in to do a survey as the original says it has no loft insulation- it has loads, the water cannot be thermostatically controlled - it's new FGS and has a timer! It doesn't have secondary heating, it does as it has a working fire place and it has solar panels as well as being secondary glazed throughout. Also new front and back door - the rating does not appear to reflect the house.
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Given what you've said I wouldn't think it would be an F. Get your own survey done.

It's usually gas and single glazing that would contribute most to a low rating.

As an estate agent I assure you I’ve never struggled to sell a house with a crap EER.

If it’s electric heating chances are the first thing anyone who buys it would do would put in gas central heating or take advantage of the grant’s currently available for things like air pumps.

Tbh I wouldn't view a house with an F EPC or without central heating. But it does sound like it needs another look.

There’s no way a house with solar panels, secondary glazing, loft insulation and more is an F.

what does the EPC actually say? Does it list those things?

If it’s been done incorrectly then you can chase down who did it and get it amended. Or it might be easier to just get it re done by a new assessor

I literally just got mine done.

And it was a D.

But due to the layout its really difficult to heat in the winter.

So I think it just depends on who does the survey.

Think maybe I was just lucky with who did it.

The system is daft anyway as the EPC surveyor spends less than ten minutes in the house and just ticks boxes. For example, he stuck his head in to our loft, saw that we had deep insulation right by the loft entrance, and said that the loft insulation was good; it's not, it gets worse and worse as your progress into the space. He looked outside and saw drill holes for cavity wall insulation and reported that it has CWI - yet it does, but chances are that it was done by a cowboy and has failed, it wasn't registered under any guarantee scheme so we'd need to pay for a survey to get it checked. But it turns out if you read the small print that the EPC is based on 'what is there' rather than 'how well it works'.

My house is a Grade 2 listed detached cottage with huge wooden single glazed windows. No wall insulation. Some loft insulation. The EPC is a D.

Not a chance I would buy a house with an EPC of F.

My old Victorian flat which was massively draughty, had enormous single-glazed bay windows and gaps in the floorboards got a D rating.

The (also Victorian) house we bought, also single glazed and about twice the square footage was an E, has an ancient (over 40 years old) boiler but is only costing a fraction more to heat, and actually our electricity bills are lower here.

My old upstairs neighbour, smaller flat, double glazing throughout, also got an E rating.

There seems to be no rhyme or reason - I would get another one done and see if it is better.

The previous owners raised it from an F to a D by putting in central heating and a combi boiler, as this only had storage heaters and water tank.

Considering my December gas bill was £450 and the house never reached above 18C, I dread to think what it would have cost to reach 18C with electric heating.

EPC RATING G1
My mother has lived in her house for 54 years. She has dementia and being concerned of how cold the house is I told the temperature- it was 3.6 degrees (below 9 is a risk of hypothermia). I asked the landlord (a church charity) to provide an EPC - it was G1. This is the lowest that can me given in England and Wales and cannot be let. My question is what will happen now? Will they have to provide alternative accommodation, can they make the 3K improvements and register an exemption. This would still make it a G rating. The house was built in 1845. She has a tenancy agreement where they can’t just evict her