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Is a "Instagram blogger" really a job?

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babyleavealighton · 18/01/2023 09:49

I follow quite a lot of Instagram fashion bloggers on Instagram and there job is basically
Taking pictures of clothes-ordering ridiculous amounts of clothes and putting outfits together
I'm a bit jealous they are getting paid to do this.
One girl in particular has a new reel daily of new in from H&M /Zara etc
And she classes "going to work " as going to her study and trying clothes on
Can you imagine ...
Free PR holidays
Etc etc

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Throwncrumbs · 18/01/2023 11:28

Just to mention Shan’ann Watts and her life lived in blogs, look what happened to her

Farmageddon · 18/01/2023 11:31

Throwncrumbs · 18/01/2023 11:28

Just to mention Shan’ann Watts and her life lived in blogs, look what happened to her

WTF? Her husband was a sociopath who killed her and their children - what has her doing blogs and video content got to do with it?
It's almost like you are trying to blame her....

catfunk · 18/01/2023 11:39

There's loads of networks of 'mummy influencers' so all follow eachother and like each others posts - they get freebies to post but their only audience is their network of other wannabe influencers so I don't understand how it works ? It's like one massive echo chamber

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Fluffymule · 18/01/2023 11:45

An influencers social media page is basically advertising space.

Ultimately there is little glamour or prestige in competing with other advertisers/influencers to sell product, be it lip gloss, belts or disinfectant.

At least in previous eras when sales people were flogging advertisement space in places like local press, magazines etc they didn't have to completely extinguish their own privacy, dignity or private life; nor that of their families and children.

RunningFromInsanity · 18/01/2023 12:00

I think it’s quite hard work at the beginning, but once you have the fan base and the brands, it’s not a bad way to make money.

Negatives are you probably don’t get a pension, sick days, annual leave and no job/financial security for the future.

socialmedia23 · 18/01/2023 12:02

Fluffymule · 18/01/2023 11:45

An influencers social media page is basically advertising space.

Ultimately there is little glamour or prestige in competing with other advertisers/influencers to sell product, be it lip gloss, belts or disinfectant.

At least in previous eras when sales people were flogging advertisement space in places like local press, magazines etc they didn't have to completely extinguish their own privacy, dignity or private life; nor that of their families and children.

wannabe celebrities often did sacrifice their privacy/dignity. Its now evolved to 'equal opportunities' as technically any pretty girl anywhere in the world with a decent camera and good makeup skills can be a 'celebrity'. In the past, they would need to be socialites (from the right family/with connections to showbiz) or talent spotted by a modelling agency etc. I mean in the past, for a lot of models, the real money was in the endorsements.

Cathyandchris · 18/01/2023 12:08

I know someone who does this - she has about 50k followers on Instagram. She does fashion stuff (& the occasional dog food ad which makes me laugh as it clashes massively with her high end fashion stuff & fancy holidays to Crete) I’m friends with her mum, who says she’s done really well and sells a lot of the stuff she’s given for free so makes extra money that way. She’s in her mid 20s and very beautiful but I’d imagine her ‘brand’ will get old soon and the ads will dry up and then she’ll have to get a real job instead of taking fashion photos in Knightsbridge!

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 18/01/2023 12:12

I'm a bit jealous they are getting paid to do this.

With the disclaimer that it's not something I'd do or follow - if it's something you aspire to, why not start your own blog and see if it gets anywhere?

hopeishere · 18/01/2023 12:15

There's so many who obviously wanted to be models but were too small!

Bubble will burst eventually.

qazxc · 18/01/2023 12:17

It can be a form of income.
But it isn't as easy as it seems, it takes a lot of time and effort and it isn't a secure long term stream of income.
Of course the stuff you see on Instagram is meant to make it look easy, effortless, glamourous, etc,... It's all part of the illusion and appeal.

JackieDaws · 18/01/2023 12:20

TiddleyWink · 18/01/2023 11:02

On another note, does anyone know roughly how much money people are making from Instagram? As a UK influencer with say 10,000 followers? Or 100,000?

I follow someone who is a full time influencer with around 200,000 followers but it looks obvious that many of them are paid for bots. Im wondering how much money is really in it. Is it all free stuff or is there actual cash at that kind of level?

Clearly I’m more fascinated than I’d like to think 🤣

I've said before on here that I'm an accidental influencer. I started posting what I wear to work photos and get ready videos on insta. I went from 0 to 60000 followers in a few months and yes I make money from it. I got on to Instagrams affiliate program where I post stories with links to the clothes I'm wearing in the reels or links to the fabric i used if its something ive made myself. I get about 2k a month from that alone. I've done a few sponsored videos where I was paid 10k for each reel.

I get 1k a month on YouTube with 100000 followers there. But my videos only average out at 20k views and I post once a week. They're just videos of me drafting a pattern and making my own clothes.
I'm sure if I could dedicate the time and quit my real job, I could make more money.

No, I'm not linking to my accounts.

MaverickGooseGoose · 18/01/2023 12:42

Of course it's a job if they can make enough money to live on which many do, very comfortably. Fuck my dog has an insta account he's a brand ambassador for several brands and regularly gets freebies.

Delatron · 18/01/2023 12:43

Good luck to them I say. I don’t know why they attract so much vitriol on here. It’s women creating a job and money out of nothing - brilliant. Like many of us have to career change after having kids.

Nobody needs to be on instagram. Don’t follow anyone who annoys you or you don’t like. But brands wouldn’t work with them if it wasn’t an effective form of advertising for them. They can tell through affiliate links how much they make.

I follow a few I like - my age. I need inspiration- if I don’t like what they are wearing/promoting then fine. But I like it that they go shopping and try on loads of clothes as I don’t have time to.

They are making hay whilst the sun shines. I think there’s a bit of jealousy on here…

socialmedia23 · 18/01/2023 12:55

MaverickGooseGoose · 18/01/2023 12:42

Of course it's a job if they can make enough money to live on which many do, very comfortably. Fuck my dog has an insta account he's a brand ambassador for several brands and regularly gets freebies.

Yes i agree with this. in the uk, you have to fill out a self assessment tax return if you earn more than £1000. I believe this is to artificially deflate the unemployment rate. Sorry but i think if you earn a few hundred pounds a month from vlogging, i am not sure if its a 'job'. I am not saying its not easy to establish a presence online and get people to support you, i am sure I couldn't do it if I tried. But a lot of things can be worthwhile/difficult without it being a career or full fledged job. A lot of jobs might be easier than being a vlogger but from the economic standpoint, i think a job can only be a job if you can support yourself on it, pay tax and NI, qualify for a state pension.

My SIL believes that she has a job as she is registered for taxes (she writes online and her subscribers pay a set amount every month). but in reality, she doesn't qualify for tax or NI. I find it so ridiculous she has to fill out a very long winded form with the result that she doesn't pay any tax as she earns below the threshold. But she sees herself as a self employed person rather than someone with a side hustle and I think this may impede her from earning more in the future.

CatatonicLadybug · 18/01/2023 13:02

TiddleyWink · 18/01/2023 11:02

On another note, does anyone know roughly how much money people are making from Instagram? As a UK influencer with say 10,000 followers? Or 100,000?

I follow someone who is a full time influencer with around 200,000 followers but it looks obvious that many of them are paid for bots. Im wondering how much money is really in it. Is it all free stuff or is there actual cash at that kind of level?

Clearly I’m more fascinated than I’d like to think 🤣

I’ll bite. I’m well over 10k and well under 100k on Instagram. I don’t cover the big topics - I’m not a fashion, beauty, finance, or parenting account. I was blogging on a niche topic since the 1990s as a hobby, so I was already doing this stuff before Instagram and had an audience of a few thousand to follow me over and then it grew. I have a similar number of followers on YouTube. I don’t have any interest in Tiktok.

Because I cover something less universal, no giant brand is going to pay to be in my posts. I get requests for really odd ball things that have nothing to do with my topic, including frying pans, medications, and window treatments, and I say no to those. There are plenty who would say yes and find some way to link it to make it make sense but that is not my thing. So I suppose that is money turned down. I have also had several requests from a milkshake diet brand to feature them for £500 - including instructions on how to pose for the before and after photos on the same day so it’s only one day of work. To that I say Oh Hell No. So please be aware of any sponsored before and after post because there is zero shame from the companies asking. They are preying on accounts that have a mostly female audience and using trickery and cash to get their spokesmodels.

I make money off three main things: people clicking my affiliate links to buy the products I show them how to use, people paying for ‘premium content’ (sorry to be less than exciting but this is more I will give you an easy to follow lesson to help you knit some socks than an OnlyFans kind of set up), and by working with companies to design things people can buy (sometimes ‘merch’ like t-shirts and stickers, but also like the yarn to knit those socks if you want yours to look just like mine).

I get some freebies but they are few and far between and I always disclose if I’m using something someone has sent me rather than something I bought. I don’t say it’s nice just because it was free but I know people who do! No free holidays for me but the equivalent of free yarn/knitting needles sometimes and every once in a while, something really surprising like a brand once sent Christmas presents to my whole family that we’re really well matched to each of us and wasn’t just some chocolate or something.

More and more I’ve also been taking photos for instagrammers and that is eye-opening. I won’t do it for free and some are shocked and assume I would do it for having my name tagged. Others fully expect to pay. I don’t know what makes the difference, because it’s not really aligned to years as an influencer or the size of their account. Just some are more cheeky than others I suppose. Free doesn’t pay my bills so I don’t do it. There’s also a real mix of those who know how to pose and are natural in front of the camera and those who need to be put into position for each shot. Annnnnd many people wear clothes with the tags still on and either take them back to the shop or sell them on Depop as BNWT after they’ve worn them for pictures, because heaven forbid they ever be photographed in the same outfit twice. Not all of them though - the whole spectrum is there.

Instagram is definitely not my job but it’s a big part of my job in that it’s the place where people keep up with what I’m doing so they will go from Instagram to the yarn for sale or the sock tutorial, and there are definitely people who just watch my free stuff on Insta or YouTube and don’t go pay for more.

We often joke in this house that if I’d been blogging about make-up or video games in the 90s instead of socks, then our mortgage would be paid off by now. But at least no one expects me to knit socks without getting any older and that’s basically what beauty accounts are expected to do.

crispypancaker · 18/01/2023 13:04

I know a mummy blogger, our kids were at primary together. She does it as a full time job now but I can’t understand how . She even moans on her posts about how busy and tired she is when she is at home all day watching tv or going shopping and filming it. She just posts all the things she buys and has a few ads.

it’s pretty dull now but she did used to be funny when her kids were little. When she started to do it full time it all started going downhill as she just seemed to lose track of who she was, she doesn’t have anything to post about any more as she doesn’t have a normal life to make content about, just shopping and what she looks like to what she’s wearing.

I think when they get to that point, they’re so self obsessed it must affect their mental health.

I probably am jealous that she has lots of money, but definitely not jealous of her life as it all seems really sad and probably quite stressful when your job is basically making sure people like you and find you interesting. When you see your numbers fall how could you not take it personally. I’d hate that.

ProtectorExtraordinaryOfTheCantonsOfNim · 18/01/2023 13:27

Farmageddon · 18/01/2023 11:31

WTF? Her husband was a sociopath who killed her and their children - what has her doing blogs and video content got to do with it?
It's almost like you are trying to blame her....

I'm sort of assuming that they were clumsily trying to make an "Instagram bloggers don't necessarily have the perfect lives they portray on Instagram" point, as a reaction to the "I'm a bit jealous" comment.

Kanaloa · 18/01/2023 13:32

If someone is paying you to do it, it’s a job. I will say it’s you that makes it a job though. You follow them and provide them an audience, that’s why they get paid.

TiddleyWink · 18/01/2023 15:21

CatatonicLadybug · 18/01/2023 13:02

I’ll bite. I’m well over 10k and well under 100k on Instagram. I don’t cover the big topics - I’m not a fashion, beauty, finance, or parenting account. I was blogging on a niche topic since the 1990s as a hobby, so I was already doing this stuff before Instagram and had an audience of a few thousand to follow me over and then it grew. I have a similar number of followers on YouTube. I don’t have any interest in Tiktok.

Because I cover something less universal, no giant brand is going to pay to be in my posts. I get requests for really odd ball things that have nothing to do with my topic, including frying pans, medications, and window treatments, and I say no to those. There are plenty who would say yes and find some way to link it to make it make sense but that is not my thing. So I suppose that is money turned down. I have also had several requests from a milkshake diet brand to feature them for £500 - including instructions on how to pose for the before and after photos on the same day so it’s only one day of work. To that I say Oh Hell No. So please be aware of any sponsored before and after post because there is zero shame from the companies asking. They are preying on accounts that have a mostly female audience and using trickery and cash to get their spokesmodels.

I make money off three main things: people clicking my affiliate links to buy the products I show them how to use, people paying for ‘premium content’ (sorry to be less than exciting but this is more I will give you an easy to follow lesson to help you knit some socks than an OnlyFans kind of set up), and by working with companies to design things people can buy (sometimes ‘merch’ like t-shirts and stickers, but also like the yarn to knit those socks if you want yours to look just like mine).

I get some freebies but they are few and far between and I always disclose if I’m using something someone has sent me rather than something I bought. I don’t say it’s nice just because it was free but I know people who do! No free holidays for me but the equivalent of free yarn/knitting needles sometimes and every once in a while, something really surprising like a brand once sent Christmas presents to my whole family that we’re really well matched to each of us and wasn’t just some chocolate or something.

More and more I’ve also been taking photos for instagrammers and that is eye-opening. I won’t do it for free and some are shocked and assume I would do it for having my name tagged. Others fully expect to pay. I don’t know what makes the difference, because it’s not really aligned to years as an influencer or the size of their account. Just some are more cheeky than others I suppose. Free doesn’t pay my bills so I don’t do it. There’s also a real mix of those who know how to pose and are natural in front of the camera and those who need to be put into position for each shot. Annnnnd many people wear clothes with the tags still on and either take them back to the shop or sell them on Depop as BNWT after they’ve worn them for pictures, because heaven forbid they ever be photographed in the same outfit twice. Not all of them though - the whole spectrum is there.

Instagram is definitely not my job but it’s a big part of my job in that it’s the place where people keep up with what I’m doing so they will go from Instagram to the yarn for sale or the sock tutorial, and there are definitely people who just watch my free stuff on Insta or YouTube and don’t go pay for more.

We often joke in this house that if I’d been blogging about make-up or video games in the 90s instead of socks, then our mortgage would be paid off by now. But at least no one expects me to knit socks without getting any older and that’s basically what beauty accounts are expected to do.

Thank you, that’s such an interesting insight! A whole nother world 🤣

gogohmm · 18/01/2023 15:22

It's a job if it pays the bills. I personally don't use instagram but if you are uncomfortable with her conspicuous consumption don't follow her

TheTurn0fTheScrew · 18/01/2023 15:28

if successful it pays the bills. I also imagine that it takes a bit of graft to build a profile (not comparing it to being a nurse or anything) in terms of getting your content together, networking for paid partnerships etc.

I once saw an influencer in the wild, posing for photos that would probably come off as spontaneous snaps. She was posing and fiddling with stuff and checking and berating the photographer and starting the whole process again for a loooong time while I drank my beer and boggled a bit. And again, while not a hard day in a care home, it didn't look like enormous fun at that time.

allfurcoatnoknickers · 18/01/2023 15:31

One of my friends has an Instagram and TikTok Famous dog/is a pet influencer. They make enough money that her husbands was able to give up his job as a city trader just to manage the Instagram account. Even before that, the dog's Instagram was paying their mortgage. The husband now has a whole career as a social media consultant for big companies - telling them how to maximize their relationships with influencers, reach the maximum amount of followers etc.

They don't sell their family, they use fake names and the kids only appear in the background of the posts. It's definitely a job though!

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