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Any scientists around? What would happen if I heated a bucket's worth of gold, rubies, sapphires & emeralds to 5000C?

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StarInTheHeavens · 10/01/2023 11:11

This was my dream last night..😂 I was so angry I smashed up my award-winning gold & gemstone studded vases (that I made) and then incinerated them at 5000C. I felt quite triumphant.. GrinShockHmm

Now I'm awake I'm wondering what would really happen? I suppose if you smash gemstones they might break into smaller bits, ditto gold. I read this morning that gold melts at roughly 1000C. So does anyone know what'd be left in my dream incinerator if I opened it next day? Would it be a black mess?

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Talipesmum · 10/01/2023 11:23

There’s a few suggestions in here:
www.quora.com/Could-you-melt-gems-diamonds-rubies-emeralds-and-mix-them-so-they-create-something-new?top_ans=182994387

Google (not a science journal and I didn’t check!) suggests that gold boils at 2856 deg C (presumably at normal pressure?) so your gold would have boiled away.

You also did very well to get a furnace that hot, as another very cursory search suggests that the hottest furnaces are around 3000degC, unless you’re using the hadron collider or something.

StarInTheHeavens · 10/01/2023 16:15

😂Thank you very much @Talipesmum

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TwoMagnificentLabradors · 10/01/2023 16:21

No idea. But it would definitely be that browny-grey colour you get when you mix all the PlayDoh together.

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parietal · 10/01/2023 16:36

if you like this kind of question, read this blog (also 2 v good books)

it answers questions like -
"I heard that bananas are radioactive. If they are radioactive, then they radiate energy. How many bananas would you need to power a house?"

what-if.xkcd.com/158/

Jules912 · 10/01/2023 16:36

Not a scientist, and not sure of the temperatures involved, but I do recall seeing some fascinating pictures (which I now can't find!) of some jewellery that had been in a bank vault beneath the World Trade Centre. Some was recognisable but most had melted and fused together.

Talipesmum · 10/01/2023 16:39

parietal · 10/01/2023 16:36

if you like this kind of question, read this blog (also 2 v good books)

it answers questions like -
"I heard that bananas are radioactive. If they are radioactive, then they radiate energy. How many bananas would you need to power a house?"

what-if.xkcd.com/158/

That’s the exact thing that came to my mind too with your question, OP - what would Randall Monroe say? (Blog and book author). There’s a great chapter in one of the books about what would happen if you tried to build a 3D periodic table out of little cubes of all the elements in the right order. It descends into global destruction far sooner than I’d anticipated!!

StarInTheHeavens · 11/01/2023 13:55

Jules912 · 10/01/2023 16:36

Not a scientist, and not sure of the temperatures involved, but I do recall seeing some fascinating pictures (which I now can't find!) of some jewellery that had been in a bank vault beneath the World Trade Centre. Some was recognisable but most had melted and fused together.

You've got me very curious now, I'm off to google....

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LaChatte · 11/01/2023 14:10

My kiln only goes up to 1300⁰C, but send me all you gold and rubis and I'll test it for you 😉

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