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How is my energy bill this high??

44 replies

reuio · 07/01/2023 19:01

126 for electric. Fine.

380 for gas?! I use the heating on 18.5 around 10 hours in every 24 hours, with only two radiators on. The rest are turned off. Have a vulnerable partner who needs the house warm so we have no option with heating but does this sound right, 380? So worried.

OP posts:
ChevreChase · 09/01/2023 12:51

One thing I have been surprised by since paying more attention to my energy bills is how much gas heating costs, compared with just having hot water only: in the four months of June-Sept the gas part of the bill was £20-30 (electric hob). Using the heating to keep the house at about 18.5 has sent it flying up, to £216 in December. I wish the heat could be harnessed from the hot water we use - that hot shower water going down the drain without warming a wall up or something seems such a waste!

BMW6 · 09/01/2023 13:12

Depends on a number of factors. Our gas CH is on all day 7am to 11pm, set at 19.

Our December gas bill was £174.44. 1518kWh I think it was.

We are in a mid terrace 2 bed house.

ThisGirlNever · 09/01/2023 17:07

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 07/01/2023 19:36

You’ve had the heating on for 10 hours a day. That seems pretty likely to me.

I've had mine on 24x7 and it came to £280.

1930's semi

Double glazed
10cm loft insulation

19°C night

20°C daytime

21°C evening

subbuteono · 09/01/2023 17:15

@reuio what temperature is your thermostat set to, and is it fixed or portable? If you only have 2 radiators on then the thermostat should be moved to the same room as one of the heated radiators. If not, it will never reach its target temperature, so your gas will be constantly flowing rather than switching off whenever the target is reached.

Notcontent · 09/01/2023 17:38

I think it’s hard to compare. The OP’s bill sounds in the high side but probably about right if her house is not that well insulated.

Mine is about £9 or £10 per day, but that’s mainly heating a smallish kitchen diner extension that has reasonable insulation. Upstairs bedrooms only heated a bit.

There was someone on another thread proudly discussing her low gas bills while having a warm house but that was because she has a fixed deal and paying prices from 2 years ago! Not very helpful to everyone else…

Overthebow · 09/01/2023 17:40

Ten hours a day of heating is a lot. We had our on for around 4 hours per day and the bill was around £200.

ThisGirlNever · 09/01/2023 18:10

mrsm43s · 07/01/2023 19:30

It may well be that much for December, but that's likely to be one of the highest usage months of the year. Generally homes only use a lot of heating in 3 or 4 months of the year, and the usage in the other months is much, much less and minimal over the summer months when the heating is off. The point of your DD is to even out the payments for usage throughout the year. Hopefully you built up a good cushion over the summer months and the mild autumn which goes towards paying this. Ultimately if your DP has heath conditions you need to heat the house to keep him healthy. The government has given you £400 plus £150 (plus other payments depending on circumstances), so please use that money to keep yourselves warm and healthy.

I've been keeping track of things since the price rises in April.

Electricity is very stable at £100 p/m. We managed to reduce consumption using smart plugs when the prices rose in October.

Our average monthly gas bill was £34 from April to October. Even after the recent cold snap, the average monthly bill is still only £71.

That will continue to rise in January, February and probably March, but there is the £400 from the government that I've not included in my figures.

Youcancallmeirrelevant · 09/01/2023 19:21

I think people need to clatify if when they say they have the heating 'on':

  1. They mean tbe boiler is firing and they are actively heating for that number of hours or
  1. Their thermostat is set to a temp for that many hours, but boiler may only fire and heat for a few hours in total during tha period.

To me 'on' means number 1. Number 2 is different.

NewBootsAndRanty · 09/01/2023 19:35

I don't have anything like hive to monitor how long my boiler is firing for, so I use 2.

NewBootsAndRanty · 09/01/2023 19:35

I don't have anything like hive to monitor how long my boiler is firing for, so I use 2.

BMW6 · 09/01/2023 20:23

2 for me

ThisGirlNever · 09/01/2023 20:59

Home temperature and gas consumed are the only things that matter. There are too many variables for 'boiler hours' to mean anything.

crossstitchingnana · 09/01/2023 21:10

Well you put your heating on twice the hours I do and your bill is twice that of mine.

ThisGirlNever · 09/01/2023 22:27

@crossstitchingnana

Unless you say what temperature you've set your central heating to, it's meaningless.

Do you heat to 19C for 4 hours, 20C for 4.5 hours and 21 C for 3.5 hours?

If not, our bills aren't really comparable.

Xrays · 09/01/2023 22:32

10 hours a day for heating is a lot. We have ours on for 3/4 hours and last month bill was £200 ish - so if we doubled that we’d be easily looking at what you’re spending.

We have 2 disabled people so we try to keep the house warm but at the end of the day we just can’t afford to have it on more- we have heated throws and find these work really well and only cost about 4p an hour to run.

NewBootsAndRanty · 09/01/2023 22:36

I had my heating at 18 overnight and 21 in the day throughout December and it cost £192 in gas on the standard rate (1 bed flat).
The first week of Jan has been lower - it came in at £28.

Skyeheather · 09/01/2023 22:55

We just got our gas bill for December, £380 also for a four bedroom house. We did have two weeks where the temperature outside was -5 and there was lots of snow and ice so DP put the heating on for longer and turned the radiators up. We also had the heating on for longer over the school holidays and at Christmas when we had people round - we hope that's the reason for the higher than usual bill and that it will be less at the end of this month.

crossstitchingnana · 10/01/2023 06:23

ThisGirlNever · 09/01/2023 22:27

@crossstitchingnana

Unless you say what temperature you've set your central heating to, it's meaningless.

Do you heat to 19C for 4 hours, 20C for 4.5 hours and 21 C for 3.5 hours?

If not, our bills aren't really comparable.

mine is set at 19.

MojoDaysxx · 10/01/2023 20:41

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Additionaly, have a look at the Martin Lewis site. He has a page regarding heating the human. www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/heat-the-human-not-the-home-save-energy/

The next time you have a gas engineer out for an annual service, it worth asking if there is anything else you can do to reduce heating costs. Advice, should be free.

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