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My DM is dying. Can I have a handhold please?

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vipersnest1 · 06/01/2023 21:06

It's very, very long as it's a bit of a brain dump, but it gives the story of what happened (and so as not to drip feed), so thanks for reading:

Just that. It was inevitable, really, but hard to deal with all the same.
She's 80, very frail and has emphysema.
She went into hospital on New Year's Eve with what we both thought was an exacerbation of her emphysema, this time being different as she was so weak she couldn't get out of bed. It turned out she has flu.

All along, I've had phone calls about packages of care, including today.
I've been visiting every other day on work days, and at weekends, meanwhile calling every day to see how she's doing. (No mobile signal where she is so I couldn't phone her directly.)

I last saw her on Wednesday, when she was up and out of bed, but very anxious as she felt she couldn't breathe, but her SATs were ok, so I put it down to a panic attack as she had one the previous evening (I only found this out when I was visiting.) She did also tell me the doctor had told her 'she was on her way out', meaning that she was dying. As she has emphysema I didn't read too much into this - as no one had spoken to me about it I assumed it was about the progression of her emphysema, but I did call and ask to speak to her doctor. As you can guess, the doctor didn't call me yesterday.

When I called the ward yesterday I was told she was settled and comfortable. (I took this to mean she was less anxious and doing ok.)

Today I got a call about her discharge, with the nurse asking questions about the care she currently has, and about her oxygen level she uses when at home. The nurse did mention that she has pneumonia, which I was surprised by. I told her I was expecting a call from the doctor and the nurse said she would make sure I got one.

I got the call just as I was arriving at the hospital. The doctor said that the treatment wasn't working and that they would try a stronger antibiotic, but if there was no response by the end of the weekend, they would put DM on 'comfort care'.

I then walked in to the side room DM is in (because of flu) to find her in bed, slightly disoriented, telling me she is dying. We spoke for a little bit about how she was and she could respond here and there.
It was obvious she had received no mouth care as her lips were caked in dried saliva. She was also thirsty so I helped her to drink a little water. I left eventually as she was distressed at the thought of making me worry and kept telling me to go home. Of course, I will go back tomorrow or earlier if anything changes.

I'm devastated.
I've always known DM would die sooner rather than later, but I had been given no forewarning that she had deteriorated so badly.

I could go on about the series of events that included poor patient care and poor communication, but I'm not here to bash the NHS.

I've had to contact my siblings who live overseas and tell them the situation, tell my DCs and also call my DM's one remaining sister who, after the loss of all but one of her sisters (my DM), is also facing losing my cousin, who has terminal cancer.

It's shit, I don't want to do this again. (I've already been through it six years ago when my DDad died of pancreatic cancer just 28 days after diagnosis.)

Sad
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Scabetty · 09/01/2023 21:14

Sending hugs to you and your family. My mum passed away just before Christmas and her funeral is on 11th. A huge whole is left in my world but talking with my siblings has been comforting as we are spread far and wide. My mum would love that we are there for each other.

ToooOldForThis · 11/01/2023 23:21

@vipersnest1 How are you doing?
We lost my dad today. We were all with him at the end.

vipersnest1 · 11/01/2023 23:53

@ToooOldForThis, I'm so sorry that you lost your dad. Sad
I'm not sure what to think about DM. She was vomiting blood a few days ago, but was remarkably chipper and vocal yesterday (but is now unable to stand let alone walk). Today she is similar, but really doesn't want to be here any more, so is markedly more unhappy and gloomy.
The hospital have advised that as she's no longer acutely unwell, she might be able to move to a community hospital or a home with good nursing care. The big questions hanging over us are:
Is this a temporary upturn?
Will she be discharged with a syringe driver in place?
She was quite agitated this evening at the thought of not being able to sleep tonight (hence the lateness of the reply), so we stayed until we had got her something to help.
We have no idea what tomorrow will bring.

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rainbowstardrops · 12/01/2023 08:42

@ToooOldForThis I'm so sorry for your loss Flowers

ToooOldForThis · 12/01/2023 13:01

Thank you so much.
Oh goodness @vipersnest1 that's a lot to consider. Great that she's rallied a bit, but keeps you guys in a state of turmoil. Is nursing care available? We found it very hard to come by.

vipersnest1 · 14/01/2023 23:22

@ToooOldForThis and everyone else, she's still with us, but apparently getting very agitated in the night - trying to get out of bed and stripping off as if to get dressed. She's also tried to pull out the catheter they've had to put in place as she had difficulty having a wee.
We're waiting on a placement in a care home, but don't think she will survive that long - officially she's a 'bed blocker' but there is nowhere for her to go to.
She will keep the room that she's in (despite her saying she hates it, with no known reason). A lot of the time she's in terrible pain with her legs - she can't change position much as it compromises her breathing. The doctors are gradually increasing the medications in her syringe driver to try and help with her increasing breathlessness and agitation. We're only heading one way, which is down. Today, she was asking the Lord to release her, so I said the Lord's Prayer with her and I hope it brought her some comfort. Who knows.
I've asked for a doctor's note to cover me for next week.

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ToooOldForThis · 15/01/2023 20:55

I'm so sorry to hear this. And glad you've got the time off, you'll never regret that.
I still feel pretty numb, but the time I spent with him at the end is a big comfort.

vipersnest1 · 15/01/2023 23:32

@ToooOldForThis, I'm very grateful that you are posting to me when you have been through (and are still going through) so much. You have a very generous heart Flowers. I'm glad those last minutes and hours have brought you some comfort.
I can totally understand the feeling of numbness. I think it's your brain's way of saying it can't deal with everything you've been through all in one go? I did this when my dad died - trying to help my mum, fielding messages from other people, helping to organise the funeral. I didn't really start to fully feel it for some time after - and that's me losing my dad, when you have had a far greater loss.

DM's driver dosage has now been changed for the fourth time, as she is getting more and more distressed by the feeling of breathlessness (and the pain she is feeling due to having only a few positions which she is comfortable with). We know that that will mean her becoming subconscious, but at least she won't be upset or feel any pain. I hope it happens soon, not for a selfish reason, but because she will then get a break from her awful feeling of panic. It's not the quiet slipping away that we all imagine (and hope for) for ourselves.

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PermanentTemporary · 16/01/2023 05:35

My heart goes out to you both @vipersnest1.

vipersnest1 · 19/01/2023 21:00

DM passed away this afternoon, very peacefully. (She had an additional driver set up two days ago with a further sedative as she was becoming increasingly distressed by pain in her legs and one arm, plus breathlessness, to the point where she told us she was scared.)

Her sister was able to speak to her one day, and came the next day to visit after a very long journey, and some other family members were able to make it too. (She was subconscious by this point but I think she was at least aware of friendly people being there.)
It was just us, her children, with her when she died and it came quickly after a change in her breathing.
Whilst we are deeply saddened by her death, we are also grateful that she hasn't got to struggle on, day after day, getting worse all of the time.
We are feeling very lost at the moment and a bit daunted by all of the arrangements we
need to make, plus the sorting out of many years of sentimental collection, and all of the other things that go with a loved one passing away.

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Thatsshallot1967 · 19/01/2023 21:17

So sorry, op. Condolences to you and your family Flowers

GettingStuffed · 19/01/2023 21:21

I'm so sorry, we've just been through the same with my mother-in-law who died in Saturday. She developed pneumonia as a result of flu, also didn't respond to antibiotics.

Don't be too hard on yourself losing a mum is hard but she's not going to suffering for much longer.

Mum2jenny · 19/01/2023 21:22

My deepest sympathy vipersnest as my mum died very unexpectedly too. Be kind to yourself and family 💐

WhatDoesItSay · 19/01/2023 22:30

I'm sorry to hear about your Mum. 💐💐

determinedtomakethiswork · 19/01/2023 22:43

I'm so sorry. 💐

nocoolnamesleft · 19/01/2023 23:44

I am sorry for your loss. But also glad that the end was peaceful. Look after yourself.

ToooOldForThis · 20/01/2023 08:02

I'm so sorry to hear your sad news. Glad you were with her, it makes such a difference, or at least it has to me. Take care in these next few days and weeks.

Badgerloco · 20/01/2023 14:46

i am so sorry for your loss, I lost my mum last January and my dad in September. Getting to spend that time with them at the end is some consolation. Be kind to yourself. I ended up quitting my job and have taken a few months off as it was too much.

vipersnest1 · 20/01/2023 18:05

Thanks for your kind words everyone, and especially @ToooOldForThis.
@ToooOldForThis, how are you doing? We got quite a lot of the organising stuff done today and started to sort out some of mum's stuff including the massive pile of medications she'd accumulated.
It got a bit much for me after a while so we stopped.

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rainbowstardrops · 21/01/2023 08:28

I'm so sorry for your loss but take comfort that your mum is at peace now Flowers

vipersnest1 · 21/01/2023 22:40

Thanks, @rainbowstardrops.

One of my siblings had a significant birthday today, so we put all efforts to sort DM's things out to one side (I for one didn't feel that sorting through DM's possessions would be a great memory for a birthday), and went to the coast (my birthday sibling's request). It was bright and clear, if a little chilly! (We also ate something traditional - for us - in the town we went to.) We stopped on the way back and had a lovely meal at a pub / restaurant not far from my home.
It was a lovely day and blew away the cobwebs of the last 12 days where we had spent every hour we could at the hospital.
As we left the coast, we saw a rainbow, which was lovely.

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TheOtherBoleynGirls · 22/01/2023 09:52

I’m so sorry for your loss, but I am so pleased to read that you had a nice day for your siblings birthday, you all needed it x

rainbowstardrops · 22/01/2023 10:12

@vipersnest1 I'm so pleased that you managed to have a lovely day with your siblings.
Being by the coast is wonderful - even in winter - and how lovely to see a rainbow!!!
I love rainbows, they always seem so magical!

vipersnest1 · 12/02/2023 22:57

I'm back for another brain dump (sorry, and thank you if you're reading):

My siblings left (at different dates) around two weeks ago. We have sorted out all of the house clearance stuff and one sibling and I disposed of DM's clothing. It all felt a bit too rushed, but otherwise I would have had to do it all alone, so it was what it needed to be, and came out of my siblings not wanting me to carry everything alone.
I returned to work last week, which has been ok.
DM was cremated last week, but had a direct cremation which was her wish, but has left me feeling like things are unfinished IYKWIM.
I still haven't processed things really, and that is part of the point of my post, but also what I've posted next:

I went to DM's yesterday to collect any post and only looked at it tonight.
In amongst it is a bill from the company who provided carers, charging for showering her on the 10th January (when she was in hospital). I had called them to tell them my mum had died and have had no contact from them. To get this bill feels like a kick in the guts and I'm feeling torn between being angry, upset and bemused at the absurdity of it all.
I don't know how to feel really, and this had added a whole new layer to it.
I know I'm just having a bit of a rant, but I really don't need this when I'm trying to deal not only with my emotions but also all of the loose ends. Sad

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rainbowstardrops · 13/02/2023 06:38

Oh* @vipersnest1* I'm so sorry things are so difficult right now.
Of course that letter has thrown you. When I was sorting my parent's house with my siblings last year, my brother was constantly having to contact utility companies etc that kept haggling over what was owed to them and we just really didn't need it while we were trying to grieve. It's awful.
Take care Flowers

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