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Allegations of assault off-duty nurse

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ffsgavin · 05/01/2023 23:12

This was a witnessed assault on a child. The nurse does not work with children but social services have involved the LADO. Does anyone have any experience of what will happen regarding the nurse's employment. What exactly does a LADO do? The police are involved too.

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ffsgavin · 06/01/2023 12:16

Bumping as I posted late last night.

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x2boys · 06/01/2023 12:27

This is anecdotal,but when a nurse I worked with was accused and subsequently pleaded guilty to.assault (not child) the police informed his e employers,who suspended him and eventually terminated his employment.

DuplicateUserName · 06/01/2023 12:31

Not enough info really.

She did smack her own child?
Did she smack someone else's?
Did she punch a child?
Did she hit them with a weapon?

I think you're going to have to give us some info on the severity of the assault.

RewildingAmbridge · 06/01/2023 12:35

The LADO will inform the employer who will have their own processes to follow, suspension is likely while investigations etc take place. If convicted I would expect them to lose their job, it's what used to be known as a schedule 1 offence. Even if not convicted depending on the circumstances they may still lose their job. It's the kind of Intel that would also show on an enhanced DBs check

ffsgavin · 06/01/2023 12:40

I didn't want to give too much info but it's a male nurse who physically and sexually assaulted his own teenage daughter in front of a witness.

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DaVariance · 06/01/2023 12:43

He'll go to prison and be struck off I presume and hope

iklboo · 06/01/2023 12:48

Physically AND sexually assaulted her?

LADO & police investigation
NMC informed

Full investigations, likely struck off if allegations are found proven, there's a conviction etc

ffsgavin · 06/01/2023 12:59

The police and social services are conducting a joint investigation and they have informed the LADO. That's all I know at the moment. The child doesn't want to prosecute. This isn't the first time he has physically assaulted the child and SS and the police have been involved several times previously but this is the first time a LADO has been mentioned.

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Notparticularlyslappable · 06/01/2023 13:05

ffsgavin · 06/01/2023 12:59

The police and social services are conducting a joint investigation and they have informed the LADO. That's all I know at the moment. The child doesn't want to prosecute. This isn't the first time he has physically assaulted the child and SS and the police have been involved several times previously but this is the first time a LADO has been mentioned.

This is the UK. Victims don’t get to choose whether or not to prosecute. That’s down to the police and CPS. Hopefully the book will be thrown!

Fuuuuuckit · 06/01/2023 13:16

At the VERY least his employers should be questioning his professional conduct (yes, even off duty, just like teachers, solicitors and so many other professions).

I'm glad the LADO are involved. Hope he gets the book thrown at him.

Fuuuuuckit · 06/01/2023 13:18

Also, it's not an allegation of a physical and sexual assault.

An ACTUAL physical and sexual assault was witnessed by a third party. Even in your post you are not questioning that this did take place.

ffsgavin · 06/01/2023 13:20

It definitely took place. There is no question about it. The police asked her if she would go to court about it and she said no.

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Fuuuuuckit · 06/01/2023 13:29

ffsgavin · 06/01/2023 13:20

It definitely took place. There is no question about it. The police asked her if she would go to court about it and she said no.

The child or the witness?

ffsgavin · 06/01/2023 13:31

The child.

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handmademitlove · 06/01/2023 13:38

The LADO is involved as the nurse may work with vulnerable adults. Their level of proof is generally lower than criminal proof, but it will ultimately be down to the employer to decide upon what action to take.

ffsgavin · 06/01/2023 13:41

He does work with vulnerable adults.

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DuplicateUserName · 06/01/2023 13:48

ffsgavin · 06/01/2023 12:59

The police and social services are conducting a joint investigation and they have informed the LADO. That's all I know at the moment. The child doesn't want to prosecute. This isn't the first time he has physically assaulted the child and SS and the police have been involved several times previously but this is the first time a LADO has been mentioned.

How does he keep gaining access to her?

mathanxiety · 06/01/2023 13:49

It sounds as if the child has been groomed and has formed a trauma bond. Also sounds as if he has raped pr sexually assaulted her before but became emboldened enough to commit the crime in front of a witness.

Hopefully the truth will come out and the child will get the help she needs.

You seem quite concerned about the fate of the criminal here and haven't mentioned the welfare of the victim - or have I read that wrong?

ffsgavin · 06/01/2023 13:55

I'm trying to just keep to the facts of what will happen to him. The child is forefront in my mind always and I know what's happening with her but not with him hence the question.
For years social services have said things happening in his care, and I use that word loosely, doesn't meet the threshold for intervention.

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iklboo · 06/01/2023 16:24

Are there any circumstances where the police can prosecute without the child pressing charges / disengaging from process - especially if the assaults have been witnessed?

ffsgavin · 06/01/2023 16:29

I don't know. The police just said they would speak to him either at home or a police station and that seems pathetic in light of the history.

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ffsgavin · 06/01/2023 23:37

Thank you for the replies. I am hoping to hear more next week about how things are progressing. I hope they throw the book at him too.

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lljkk · 07/01/2023 15:13

Are you the witness, OP?
Is the witness credible?
Is there physical evidence, was the child immediately examined after the assault?

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