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Why the fuck are some English people so nasty about ginger hair?

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QuentininQuarantino · 02/01/2023 22:16

My beautiful DH is ginger. When we first got together, he was attacked from
behind and had his jaw broken, had a McDonald’s throws at him out of a car window, had a bloke push him into
a pond at university. My own “friends” asked me when I was pregnant what I would do if my baby came out ginger. He tells me heartbreaking stuff about being bullied at school.

We emigrated 10 years ago and people say nothing, or nice things.

We’ve been back in the UK for Xmas for 3 weeks and we’ve already had people (older people) shouting “Oi Ed Sheeran” across the street about four times, one young woman in a pub asking to see his pubes FFS.

Why is it still okay, and common(!) to bully strange men in front of their small children purely based on a psychical characteristic!!??

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TheoTurkey · 20/01/2025 19:41

I don’t know but it’s absolutely vile. My daughter’s boyfriend is ginger and has had the same abuse. They had a baby ten months ago and so many people said ‘I hope it’s not ginger’ when she was pregnant. Even people MY age (early 50s). What’s wrong with them? All we wanted was a healthy baby.

As for whether he’ll be ginger, we don’t know (or care). His hair is fair, but in some lights it has a bit of red. Maybe. He’s the best thing that ever existed

Why the fuck are some English people so nasty about ginger hair?
PsychedlicSally · 21/01/2025 02:55

We are a family of red-heads, DH, both DCs and me. I don't use or like the term ginger, due to a lifetime of snidey remarks, I find it is most commonly used in a negative way. I don't get offended when people use it in a non-nasty way, yet I wish they would use a different term.

Recently, I feel, it has become worse because now we seem to be referred to collectively as "Gingers" or singly as "A Ginger" which never used to happen. It was previously used (against us) as an adjective not a noun.

I was a child of the 60's and grew up with many a nasty comment, frequently being called "ginger nut" at primary school age, then had a nightmare of a time in secondary school when duracell batteries first launched with the "copper coloured top" strapline. This progressed to complete strangers (usually boys/young men) shouting "ginger pubes" at me in public, in city centres streets, in shops, on the bus, everywhere in my teens and 20's. Adults regularly used to joke about me being the milkman's, or ask if our milkman had red hair.

I clearly remember a girl from my year at school shouting across a road to me when I was about 11/12 "I bet you've got a ginger pussy!" I was with a few mates, so was she, I was mortified, I just said "We don't have a cat" to shut her up but I had a good idea what she meant. She was from a very rough family and not the brightest and I was pretty scared of her, she subjected me to tons of similar comments over the next couple of years.

Nights out in my late teens and 20's, you could guarantee that at least one boy/man would ask directly face to face what colour my pubes were? WTF - who else has to tolerate a complete stranger asking such a question!!! Of course, that was back in the day when people still had pubes, perhaps its not an issue nowadays.

A lot of the verbal abuse I have been on the receiving end of over the years has been from adults and older adults, I was hoping it would die out but there's been a resurgence, definitely in the last 10 to 15 years. I have had comments about my pale skin, freckles and propensity to sunburn as well. I even had someone slag me off for having no melanin.

I do think boys get it worse, My Dh got it really bad as a kid/teen. I think women can be particularly unkind about red haired men. I have always taught my daughters to love their hair colour but they have been ribbed at school about it. It can be quite intimidating when a crowd of kids all chant "ginger" at you and point in a crowded school corridor. I was secretly relieved that we had girls as I knew it would be much worse for boys.

Its not just comments either, there are real consequences, I am sure I have lost out in job interviews and been overlooked for promotions before due to being a red-head and so is my DH.

I don't think "gingerism" is an English thing, more of a British thing, I accept that it happens elsewhere too but Britain mainly. I don't consider it racist, its about appearance but we can't help the colour of our hair and skin so in that way there are similarities. I once reported someone at work for making some very nasty comments based on my colouring over a long period of time which wore me down. I worked for the council who were very anti-discrimination but I was told it wasn't discrimination as I could dye my hair a different colour! They didn't do anything about it. I can't change my skin and shouldn't have to dye my hair to suit others.

I think its one of the last bastions of prejudice which remains legal and that's why it is on the increase. I have also noticed that short people seem to be in the firing line recently, that needs to become a protected characteristic. Certain comedians don't help matters on both counts and the heightism thing got really bad because of Sunak. I have no problem with people slagging Sunak off, he is a complete twat but he can't help being short. I am sure the very tall suffer too. It just all needs to stop.

FuckMeUpFlorida · 21/01/2025 04:29

I just think some people aren't very bright and act out against anything perceived as 'different'.

I've had the ginger comments my whole life (worst time of it was in secondary school, the teasing was merciless, compounded by teachers saying it's because the boys like you which is a whole other discussion for another thread 🙄) so I do get it OP. People can be odd.

XanaduKira · 21/01/2025 15:01

PsychedlicSally · 21/01/2025 02:55

We are a family of red-heads, DH, both DCs and me. I don't use or like the term ginger, due to a lifetime of snidey remarks, I find it is most commonly used in a negative way. I don't get offended when people use it in a non-nasty way, yet I wish they would use a different term.

Recently, I feel, it has become worse because now we seem to be referred to collectively as "Gingers" or singly as "A Ginger" which never used to happen. It was previously used (against us) as an adjective not a noun.

I was a child of the 60's and grew up with many a nasty comment, frequently being called "ginger nut" at primary school age, then had a nightmare of a time in secondary school when duracell batteries first launched with the "copper coloured top" strapline. This progressed to complete strangers (usually boys/young men) shouting "ginger pubes" at me in public, in city centres streets, in shops, on the bus, everywhere in my teens and 20's. Adults regularly used to joke about me being the milkman's, or ask if our milkman had red hair.

I clearly remember a girl from my year at school shouting across a road to me when I was about 11/12 "I bet you've got a ginger pussy!" I was with a few mates, so was she, I was mortified, I just said "We don't have a cat" to shut her up but I had a good idea what she meant. She was from a very rough family and not the brightest and I was pretty scared of her, she subjected me to tons of similar comments over the next couple of years.

Nights out in my late teens and 20's, you could guarantee that at least one boy/man would ask directly face to face what colour my pubes were? WTF - who else has to tolerate a complete stranger asking such a question!!! Of course, that was back in the day when people still had pubes, perhaps its not an issue nowadays.

A lot of the verbal abuse I have been on the receiving end of over the years has been from adults and older adults, I was hoping it would die out but there's been a resurgence, definitely in the last 10 to 15 years. I have had comments about my pale skin, freckles and propensity to sunburn as well. I even had someone slag me off for having no melanin.

I do think boys get it worse, My Dh got it really bad as a kid/teen. I think women can be particularly unkind about red haired men. I have always taught my daughters to love their hair colour but they have been ribbed at school about it. It can be quite intimidating when a crowd of kids all chant "ginger" at you and point in a crowded school corridor. I was secretly relieved that we had girls as I knew it would be much worse for boys.

Its not just comments either, there are real consequences, I am sure I have lost out in job interviews and been overlooked for promotions before due to being a red-head and so is my DH.

I don't think "gingerism" is an English thing, more of a British thing, I accept that it happens elsewhere too but Britain mainly. I don't consider it racist, its about appearance but we can't help the colour of our hair and skin so in that way there are similarities. I once reported someone at work for making some very nasty comments based on my colouring over a long period of time which wore me down. I worked for the council who were very anti-discrimination but I was told it wasn't discrimination as I could dye my hair a different colour! They didn't do anything about it. I can't change my skin and shouldn't have to dye my hair to suit others.

I think its one of the last bastions of prejudice which remains legal and that's why it is on the increase. I have also noticed that short people seem to be in the firing line recently, that needs to become a protected characteristic. Certain comedians don't help matters on both counts and the heightism thing got really bad because of Sunak. I have no problem with people slagging Sunak off, he is a complete twat but he can't help being short. I am sure the very tall suffer too. It just all needs to stop.

I was a child in the late 80s / 90s & had all of this, including my dad who thought it was hilarious to tease me constantly for being ginger! Also had many men & women asked me if the carpet & curtains matched!

Needless to say I did start dying my hair blonde as soon as I was 18 (& my mum could no longer forbid me!). Teasing stopped then & I've never had any for being ginger since!

MyDarlingClementine · 21/01/2025 16:50

When I was v young like 10 to 25 my core friends were, ginger, Indian, white brit but lager.

My ginger friend had repeated and on going abuse, light comments to nastier ones.

lieselotte · 21/01/2025 18:04

I think its one of the last bastions of prejudice which remains legal and that's why it is on the increase. I have also noticed that short people seem to be in the firing line recently, that needs to become a protected characteristic. Certain comedians don't help matters on both counts and the heightism thing got really bad because of Sunak. I have no problem with people slagging Sunak off, he is a complete twat but he can't help being short. I am sure the very tall suffer too. It just all needs to stop

Totally agree with this.

Britishignorance · 01/02/2025 03:48

Racism attge very least prejudice

Hollyhobbi · 16/02/2025 17:13

MyDarlingClementine · 21/01/2025 16:50

When I was v young like 10 to 25 my core friends were, ginger, Indian, white brit but lager.

My ginger friend had repeated and on going abuse, light comments to nastier ones.

Do you mean they were larger?

Britishignorance · 17/03/2025 19:01

Nobody has to like red hair but to treat them differently and ginger shouldn't be an insult but has been used unequivocally too mock prejudicial piss take for so long England is a stupid country anyway this is just another horrible yardstick

Britishignorance · 17/03/2025 19:07

Well someone gets it people can say what they want about ginger hair BUT, it should be rebutted if used in any bullying way. They wouldn't say that about any other people and it is an easy minority and it is cowardly to point out something which they know they can get away with

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 17/03/2025 19:07

It's absolutely NOT okay! I don't think it's a form of racism, sorry, but i think it's a form of bullying and discrimination.

People need to bully others. Someone being different will be picked on, so weird.

I'm sorry your dh went through that.

In the same way that fat people are bullied, I think that this has lifelong consequences. I think it should be up to those on tv etc to ban jokes at ginger people's expense, the same with fat people.

So nasty.

Britishignorance · 17/03/2025 19:08

Is what worries me though people are ignorant and even people who like ginger hair don't say anything or stand up for them and think it's that shitty cringe word "banter"

Britishignorance · 17/03/2025 19:28

I wouldn't take heed of english people in general not the most intelligent and certainly not the most attractive anyway I for one love ginger hair but it's incredibly rare I'm beautiful

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