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Catastrophic state of NHS and Social Care...

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Keha · 20/12/2022 21:47

On from the previous thread about the state of the ambulance service and hospitals. A lot of the "blame" placed on social care. I work in social care and agree it has been dire and the poor relation for years. But ultimately, what is the problem with funding these services? (And also things like education, housing etc).

I feel like I pay a reasonable amount of tax, NI and council tax. I don't think I currently take much out of the system, although may do in future. Is there actually enough money in to pay for what's needed?

Can we, as a society, afford the complex care needed with an ageing population? Is the NHS bringing about it's downfall by actually being very good at keeping people alive with complex needs? Are some people expecting too much, such as long term individualised care at home rather than in a care home? Or fighting over getting certain funding with multiple complaints and appeals for something they can pay for themselves? Is there too much paperwork and waste? Half the paperwork seems to be to cover our own backs. Are middle managers just crap? (I am a middle manager!). Is money wasted on stupid jobs and "woke" training?

Or is there plenty of money but it's being siphoned off into shit contracts (PPE etc), but other examples? Are the Tories deliberately underfunding to create a private system?

Do you think we actually pay in enough to get everything we be all want?

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DenholmElliot11 · 20/12/2022 22:16

I'm not sure why the NHS isnt funded properly as I'm sure it is affordable.

I'm actually beginning to think that all those nurse agency companies are owned by tories and making huge profits.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 20/12/2022 22:19

I think social care his generally amazingly run with few resources. Definitely the NHS has been offloading elderly care into social care over the last 20 + years. People who have extremely high needs are deemed social care.

Crackedmosaic · 20/12/2022 22:30

People need to be willing to pay more for social care. I work in ASC and the amount of people who complain about paying for care is high. Either we need to pay more taxes or people have to accept paying for care at point of use. It has to be paid for somehow. Especially as carers need to be paid more to encourage more into the role. The lack of care packages due to lack of staff is a real problem with our LA placing people on care homes who could return home with care packages if there was availability. This is costing the council a fortune as they are paying much higher residential rates for someone they should be funding a lower non residential rates. It has to be paid for by someone.

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