It is not illegal to be an asylum seeker

[antelopevalley]

It is legal to cross the channel in a boat and claim asylum when you reach Britain. People who do this are not illegal, they are acting within the law.

I never quite understand the logic of comments like this. Who would choose to pay thousands of pounds for a journey with a very possible risk of death, over a nice easy flight for £28? Why would people risk their life if a nice, easy safe route exists? Just for a bit of a laugh?

Also please don’t start me on the absolute fallacy of France being a safe country. It’s a safe country if you’re British, tucked up in your holiday home. Do asylum seekers have a passport, with the protection that brings? Is a migrant camp a safe environment for your kids, or for an adult with no money, no job, no home? That’s what happens to a lot of asylum seekers in France.

This covers asylum seekers from Iran (young men being executed by the state right now for supporting women’s protests.) And asylum seekers from Eritrea, where teenagers and young men are targeted for forced labour for forced conscription. And asylum seekers from Afghanistan, where young men were involved in security and diplomatic work alongside the British army, and were promised evacuation. That evacuation didn’t happen, and now they are being harrassed, arrested or executed by the Taliban. Basically, it covers the majority of asylum seekers

You cannot just take any young man from Iran or Afghanistan, most would have nothing to do with the protests anyways. It’s women who are targeted by the Iranian government but you rarely see them seek asylum. How is this remotely ok?

There is a better way, only accepting applicants from abroad after careful and close review, prioritising women, children and ethnic minorities under a predetermined amount of visas for that region/area.

You cannot just take any young man from Iran or Afghanistan, most would have nothing to do with the protests anyways. It’s women who are targeted by the Iranian government but you rarely see them seek asylum. How is this remotely ok?

I’m quite surprised about the lack of awareness of the situation in Iran (and asylum in general!). I literally told you men are being executed and you’ve just glossed right over it. Here’s more info and please don’t just discount what people are going through just because they’re young men.

Tortured, sham trial, imminent execution.
mobile.twitter.com/AmnestyIran/status/1602369615790837763

An Iranian footballer reportedly faces execution after campaigning for women's rights.
www.itv.com/news/2022-12-13/fifpro-sickened-by-reports-footballer-faces-execution-in-iran

sentenced to death accused of "corruption on earth.” In prison he has been beaten until unconscious and sexually abused.
mobile.twitter.com/omid9/status/1602790080367689735

Scores of executions feared in Iran as 23-year-old hanged in public killing
amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/12/scores-of-executions-feared-in-iran-as-23-year-old-hanged-in-public-execution

Of course it’s not only men who are being targeted. Iranian women are being arrested, raped, beaten and executed/killed as well. It’s horrific. Both groups are in danger. I can do a long post for you on the women who have been attacked and killed by the Iranian regime, but focused on men here just as you seemed unaware.

“but we rarely see them seek asylum.”

Do you? Is that what you’ve confirmed through research or just something you’ve believed from the media? Because Iranian women do seek asylum.
“A boat with about 85 Iranian and Afghan passengers, including 30 women and children, has been stranded in the Mediterranean waters, Iran International has learned.”
www.iranintl.com/en/202208263640

We never see footage of women arriving small boats in the Uk do we? There’s two reasons for that. 1)They’re there, but it doesn’t suit the media narrative to show this. NGOs and charities see a fair number of women and kids arriving.

2. the journey from Iran is absolutely brutal and dangerous. There’s risk of capture, rape and torture on the journey, and it is physically too difficult and unsafe for many women and children, which is why you see more men than women. And that’s why it’s vital to have safe routes. The government shutting down safe routes has left so many women and children in danger.

I swear to god I have posted that second point a thousand times on mumsnet. How, how are people expecting women and children to do a journey where shit like this happens?

“Thousands of migrants and asylum seekers are facing “an unprecedented rise in violence” at the EU’s border, including beatings, forced undressing and sexual assaults, according to a report exposing thousands of alleged illegal expulsions in harrowing detail.”
www.theguardian.com/law/2022/dec/08/migrants-face-unprecedented-rise-in-violence-in-eu-borders-report-finds?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Amd just to be super clear @MintyFreshOne I’m not at all disagreeing with your idea of accepting asylum seekers from abroad. That’s what I mean by “safe routes” in my point above. I just like to clarify, as usually when I point out the problems men face or that women can’t manage the journey, I’m usually told I’m advocating for open borders or for everyone’s nan to be replaced by an asylum seeker or something equally weird.

I live near a women’s detention centre. It is specifically for female immigrants. I have friends who volunteer there and I am on the volunteer committee. Every single woman released from there was unnecessarily detained and was granted asylum.

As it's an absolute right in international law to claim asylum in any country you wish and this is the only way for people without visas to claim asylum in the UK, surely it IS legal to enter the country without a visa. If it is the ONLY route to claiming what is legally your right, it must be legal unless the UK is breaking international law.