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What happens to your NHS pension if you die single?

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EachandEveryone · 28/11/2022 08:33

I know its a morbid thought but does it really go nowhere if youve paid into for 30 years? It seems really unfair. Ive looked at the list who it can go to and its partner married or live in or children. It does say other nominees but I cant work out if ot means it could go to a niece/live in friend whos on all the bills and looks after me.

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ChessieFL · 28/11/2022 18:59

There are two elements of death benefits relating to public sector pensions, including NHS. The first is an ongoing pension for survivors and these can only be paid to people who meet specific criteria e.g. spouse, dependent children, unmarried partners meeting specified criteria. If there’s nobody who meets the criteria to get a survivor pension then it just doesn’t get paid.

The second element is a lump sum. This is payable while you are an active scheme member, while you are a deferred scheme member, and within the first few years of retirement. This is where you can nominate whoever you like to receive the payment, so it can go to anyone (although NHS Pensions retain ultimate discretion to decide who it will get paid to). However once you have been retired for a few years there won’t be a lump sum payable so if there’s no survivors eligible for an ongoing pension then it would die with you.

The money doesn’t go back anywhere - there’s no NHS pension fund so contributions being paid now by active members are paying the pensions for those already receiving them.

Soontobe60 · 28/11/2022 19:00

StreamingCervix · 28/11/2022 08:53

You say they consider a live in partner, and you say you have a live in friend? If that’s the case then the line between friend/partner is quite narrow, and they can’t prejudice you for being in a same sex relationship. I’d phone the pension service to get clarity, and then ask my ‘friend’ how she would feel about being noted on my paperwork as a live in partner.

There needs to have been a provable relationship for 2+ years.
Qualifying scheme partner pensions
To qualify for a scheme partner pension all the following conditions must be satisfied at the date of the member’s death and have existed for a continuous period of at least two years:
• neither person has a legal partner i.e. a spouse or registered civil partner
• they are not related to each other in a way which would prevent marriage or registered civil
partnership
• they are living together in an exclusive relationship as if they were husband and wife or civil partners
• the member and partner are financially interdependent or the partner is financially dependent on the
member.
Dependency checks are made after the member dies; this typically means things like sharing bank accounts and a mortgage, naming each other in a Will, or running a joint household.
If all the above conditions are satisfied, the nominated/non-nominated partner will need to provide at least two forms of supporting documentation as proof of financial interdependency / dependency, for example shared mortgage, bank accounts or household expenditure documents

ChessieFL · 28/11/2022 19:00

So yes OP you can nominate your niece/friend to nominate any death lump sum that may become payable but they can’t receive an ongoing survivor pension.

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Soontobe60 · 28/11/2022 19:03

EachandEveryone · 28/11/2022 17:41

I know but what if you take medical retirement so cant really go back to work how long does that death in service last for? I mean its £90 grand not to be sniffed at. Does it mean its better tonwork until u are on your last legs and leave yr pension in. I know its morbid but no one will speak about it in real life

If you retire early on the grounds of ill health, you will receive a lump sum as part of your pension anyway. I think its 3x your annual pension - it is for teachers. So for someone who may receive a £15000 annual pension, they will also receive a tax free lump sum of £45k. If you die 4 years after retiring, you’ll have had 45 = 15x3 k = 90K.

DillDanding · 28/11/2022 19:04

I don’t know about NHS pensions, but my local govt pension will go to my husband - but only a fraction of it. But if I die while still employed, he’ll get 4 years of my salary.

GetOffTheRoof · 28/11/2022 19:05

EachandEveryone · 28/11/2022 17:41

I know but what if you take medical retirement so cant really go back to work how long does that death in service last for? I mean its £90 grand not to be sniffed at. Does it mean its better tonwork until u are on your last legs and leave yr pension in. I know its morbid but no one will speak about it in real life

Then you are no longer in service.

The DIS is paid if you are still working when you die - or up to 5ytd after your retirement (medical or not).

ChessieFL · 28/11/2022 19:07

DillDanding · 28/11/2022 19:04

I don’t know about NHS pensions, but my local govt pension will go to my husband - but only a fraction of it. But if I die while still employed, he’ll get 4 years of my salary.

If you die in service he’ll get a lump sum of 3x your salary plus an ongoing pension.

genie10 · 28/11/2022 20:48

The NHS pays 50% of your pension to a surviving partner/dependant as descibed by soontobe60

1001Daffodils · 28/11/2022 21:35

Soontobe60 · 28/11/2022 18:59

This isn’t strictly correct. DIS benefits can be claimed up to 5 years after leaving pensionable service. However, if the retiree has claimed a bigger lump sum for example, the DIS lump sum is reduced by that amount.

Thank you for the corection. My defined benefit pension is a rarity these days as I'm private sector.

There's no 5 year grace for DIS. It's instant.

I didn't realise although should have that government backed defined benefit pensions would have better clauses.

declutteringmymind · 28/11/2022 21:39

As far as I know, you can nominate a beneficiary. This doesn't have to be your spot it I'm not sure of the rules.

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