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If you aren't close to family, what's your Christmas like?

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IsitGeorgeorPeppa · 16/11/2022 14:20

I know on MN everyone seems to be super close with their parents / extended family but for some of us that's not the case. So this is a question for those who can relate, and who are not close to their parents and in-laws.

If you and your DH/DP aren't close to either set of parents/grandparents but you feel somewhat obligated to see them occasionally, how do you structure your Christmas so you still enjoy it and aren't seething with resentment?

Example- my mother has narcissistic qualities and I was never close to her or my Dad as they were were emotionally abusive to me and my sister. I am quite low contact with them really, however they are a very middle class stiff upper lip (stately homes thread) type family and my sister and I still see them around 3 times a year for obligation purposes. (We both have DC).

My DH is not close to his parents. His dad walked out and never contacts him and his mum is over-stifling, and emotionally blackmailing with him so he avoids seeing her. He's not particularly close to his siblings either. We will see MIL a few times a year.

At Christmas last year we chose to spend Xmas day as a family unit (us with our DC at home) as we wanted to set a precedent that Xmas Day would be just us at our home for our DC. (Previous 2 years were like that anyway due to Covid).

As a compromise we drove up to see MIL on Boxing Day (3hr drive) and stayed in a hotel that night, before driving to my parents on the 27th. (They live close to each other).

It felt like a real marathon with the driving, staying in a hotel room with small DC, and MIL was teary about us leaving in the evening even though we needed to get our 1x year old to bed, so it was tense. Going through it all the day after with my parents felt draining.

It also ruined Christmas Day for us as we knew the next day we'd have up be up really early to pack and drive, didn't want to drink very much on Xmas Day etc etc. I found the whole of Christmas Day I was dreading the visits the next day.

This year we are wondering about suggesting we see our parents later on, like around 28th , so that we can enjoy Xmas Day and boxing Day with less pressure. But I don't know if that's a good idea.

I know many will think - why bother going at all - but it's hard as there is that sense of FOG (fear obligation guilt) and duty, especially to allow DC to have some sort of relationship with their extended family, even though it will never be a close one.

Also I find it odd that we always have to go to MILs home, and she "hosts", even though her DC are all grown up. I was wondering about inviting them to us but don't know if that would make things worse. (My parents are elderly and can't drive down to us so we can only see them there).

Does anyone else go through this annual dance of working out how to see families and making it as painless as possible? I'd really like to know if anyone has found a successful way to manage it all and alleviate the stress all round? It's not as simple as just not going ever. Any advice?

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mindutopia · 16/11/2022 15:38

We have a lovely Christmas at home and sometimes BIL and his partner also come to stay (we like them). No seething, no resentment. We just do what works for us. I'm NC with my family, so it's not an issue, though they do sometimes pop up on special days with a cheery message like all the fucking drama of the past however many years hasn't happened. That used to really bother me, but over time, I've learned to grey rock it and it's not so upsetting anymore.

Dh's mum will never come for xmas as she has to be at home with her partner (who we are NC and would never dream of having anything to do with us anyway). He won't let her do anything on her own with family on a big day anyway, so that solves that problem. She will come to visit for Boxing Day or New Year's and that's fine.

We also have lovely friends, so this year especially now that COVID is settled a bit, we'll likely see them briefly in the afternoon as all our dc play with each other. That's also nice.

mindutopia · 16/11/2022 15:42

Sorry, I guess the answer to that is that we don't juggle everyone else's needs. We do what works for us, which isn't really what you're asking for, but honestly, sounds like it's time to set up some boundaries. Say, we'll see you next year and have a quiet. Go visit family, but don't make it about xmas - do it on New Years or before xmas. Stay a couple days so less rushing, but be very firm about having other plans, so that you can be quite time limited. But really the main thing is just not doing anything you don't want to do, even if it upsets people. If I don't want to see someone, I don't. End of. Sanity and wellbeing is more important than keeping everyone happy, especially if your family are the sorts who will be miserable about something anyway, even if you do all the 'right' things.

Hoppinggreen · 16/11/2022 15:42

It’s lovely
DH goes to see his Mum either a few days before or after Xmas, the kids might go if he can persuade them. He leaves the presents for his sisters family there.
I drop pressies off to my brother and his family a couple of days before or SIL comes here to do the same and stays for a quick cuppa.
Xmas eve we go out with friends (dc come)
Xmas Day My Mum and sdad come for Brunch then after they leave we go out for a Curry
Its all very chilled and not based around pleasing anyone except ourselves

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IsitGeorgeorPeppa · 16/11/2022 20:06

Sounds nice and like you don't have any obligations!

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Miss03852 · 16/11/2022 20:07

I go to my Mums, we aren’t close at all. I don’t look forward to it but I don’t dread it either.

Hoppinggreen · 16/11/2022 20:20

IsitGeorgeorPeppa · 16/11/2022 20:06

Sounds nice and like you don't have any obligations!

It is.
Nobody even tries to guilt trip us anymore as they know it doesn’t work.
We spent years running around trying to keep people happy, only for someone to complain anyway so now we don’t

Underawarmblanket · 16/11/2022 20:24

We used to bend and fold for everyone else and we hated it, We are NC with some family members now, and with everyone else we only answer the door if they pre-arrange a visit and we are only ever “free” on the non special days before Christmas to get it all out of the way, same goes for us visiting. We wish them all a happy new year and we then have a blissful Christmas just us and our DC and see some of our friends.

BettyOBarley · 16/11/2022 20:26

I get on well with my parents but DH has a bit of a distant relationship with his mum (who is on her own). She's quite a difficult character.
They all live very local though so we don't have a good excuse to do xmas on our own and visit later.
It means every Xmas day we have them all to us for the day and I don't enjoy it at all as they don't really talk / have anything in common and it makes a very long, stilted, uncomfortable day for me (and DH but he cooks, so he gets to hide in the kitchen!). It means I don't really enjoy Xmas Day much, apart from being with the kids, but we couldn't leave his DM on her own, so it is what it is.

Hbh17 · 16/11/2022 20:29

It's great, assuming that you stick to the golden rule of "no relatives at Xmas" - then you can do whatever you like.

Hoppinggreen · 16/11/2022 20:30

BettyOBarley · 16/11/2022 20:26

I get on well with my parents but DH has a bit of a distant relationship with his mum (who is on her own). She's quite a difficult character.
They all live very local though so we don't have a good excuse to do xmas on our own and visit later.
It means every Xmas day we have them all to us for the day and I don't enjoy it at all as they don't really talk / have anything in common and it makes a very long, stilted, uncomfortable day for me (and DH but he cooks, so he gets to hide in the kitchen!). It means I don't really enjoy Xmas Day much, apart from being with the kids, but we couldn't leave his DM on her own, so it is what it is.

You don’t actually need a good excuse to do xmas on your own you know

BettyOBarley · 16/11/2022 20:40

Hoppinggreen · 16/11/2022 20:30

You don’t actually need a good excuse to do xmas on your own you know

No I know, you're right.
If DH's mum had a partner/other family we'd do it like a shot, but we won't leave her on her own on Christmas Day - even if she is a total pain!
To be fair we don't see her much over the rest of Xmas so I can cope with one day, the wine will be open early! 🤣

minidancer · 16/11/2022 20:41

We go abroad and avoid them all

Swampthing55 · 16/11/2022 20:43

Always just the two of us. Two weeks in pjs loads of movies and food it's awesome

Trulyweird1 · 16/11/2022 20:47

I am close to my sister but after many years of juggling in-laws,and big productions , she and I are pretty relaxed about Christmas Day itself and each family unit does it’s own thing.
For us that generally means a beach or hill with the dogs, then a leisurely dinner and special wine by the fire. Dinner may be beef, or fish - anything but turkey . Days before and after we may catch up with friends or family. I am so over cooking for the ungrateful .

Ameadowwalk · 16/11/2022 20:48

I go see my parents around the 28th or 29th with the DC (single parent). Long and complicated reasons why, but actually the last couple of years, it has been really fun and worked out nicely. I just take the view that there are twelve days of Christmas and not just one.

nova99 · 16/11/2022 20:53

Trulyweird1 · 16/11/2022 20:47

I am close to my sister but after many years of juggling in-laws,and big productions , she and I are pretty relaxed about Christmas Day itself and each family unit does it’s own thing.
For us that generally means a beach or hill with the dogs, then a leisurely dinner and special wine by the fire. Dinner may be beef, or fish - anything but turkey . Days before and after we may catch up with friends or family. I am so over cooking for the ungrateful .

Cooking for the ungrateful! 😂

OP I would not entertain that kind of drinking and hotel facing with a 2 year old. In fact, it should be your get off jail free card! Can they not come to you?
Could they drive and meet you half way and go for a really nice lunch somewhere?

Xmas 2019 I got up at 6am to start cooking every single thing from scratch, made 3 different meats, extra goose fat potatoes as they were requested, had a colicky 2 month old strapped to me and a stroppy toddler and for what? Sister and brother in law didn't show, their child came and refused to touch anything including the extra potatoes she had requested, and MIL had a slice of cold meat.

Not done it since

nova99 · 16/11/2022 20:54

Would not entertain driving that was supposed to say! Drink all you want 😆

nova99 · 16/11/2022 20:57

and to answer your question, our Xmas day is now just us (DH and kids) and an M&S Christmas food order so I don't need to 'cook', just oven cook stuff. The shin of beef is Devine and the children love the Colin the caterpillar Santa cake.
I'll be honest it's not what I would of chose for them, I grew up with big extended family celebrations and it's sad in a way, but keeping it just us means less stress and hurt tbh.

FallingsHowIFeel · 16/11/2022 21:48

We often spend from 23rd to after new year away so we just avoid family totally. 😬 but some years including this one year we’re going away a bit later so we’ll be seeing some family.

I’m not in contact with my parents. My partner isn’t close to his parents but has some contact. He is seeing them on Christmas Eve for a meal for a couple of hours, kids and I are staying home. We are all seeing my partners brother and children and some of my family on Xmas eve too for drinks.

We’re have Xmas Day and Boxing Day just the 4 of us which is lovely.

Then on 27th we travel to our holiday home to spend new year. Our friends and their kids are coming with us as they usually do so there’s loads of us.

My partners parents have a bit of a moan and try to make us feel guilty but we just brush it off. There’s lots of history there so we feel no guilt. We’re really close to our group of friends so that’s who were choose to spend time with.

Puddywoodycat · 16/11/2022 21:52

Which MN are you reading?

Because the one I read is usually full of threads by December of desperate women being forced to spend Xmas eating half a potatoe and a dry slice of turkey with their in law's.
Then they are forced to sit passively whilst their mil gives their DC a stocking, Xmas presents they wanted to give and so on.

Puddywoodycat · 16/11/2022 22:36

Op I must apologise I don't reading your full op.
[Blush]

Well.... I wouldn't go and see them at a time that suits you both more..
Perhaps that dead time between new years and Xmas Day or after?

Ultimately don't feel obliged..
I don't like to feeling guilty so I always think What do I need to do to not feel guilty.
I'e try a few times with struggling relationship,try to be fair.
But if the people can't meet me half way I refuse to bend.

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