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Stairs help please!

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idunnodoi · 11/11/2022 13:48

Have just moved to a new house with narrow stairs with just a tiny landing at the top. My plan was to teach nearly four year old DS to use stairs safely, but babygate off at night with a tall gate once he’s in bed to be safe (he never gets up in the night and wanders, but does come into me in the morning which would mean crossing the landing, and I fear one sleepy misstep and he could tumble…and obviously he may decide at any time to start midnight wanders!).

However, now I’ve moved in and looked at getting a stairgate, it seems it’s impossible to get anything that fits across top of stairs due to the odd layout, with a gap between edge of top step and wall (yellow line on stairs pic) plus bannister in the way. Have even spoken with and sent pics to ‘safetots’ and they were unable to recommend anything.

So my options are gating the space just before the stairs (see pic), but worry that if DS ever got it into his head to climb over, if he actually managed he could drop straight down the stairs on other side. Or, gating off his bedroom at night – don’t like the idea of this, and still possible he might climb over but at least then it’s not directly in front of stairs.

Any ideas on what the best option is here? Or any ingenious ways to gate off the space safely? Also, how easy might it be for a four year old to open a gate? We’ve come from a flat and I’ve never used gates before so am a novice

Stairs help please!
Stairs help please!
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BigBunkers · 11/11/2022 13:54

Could you gate his door instead of the stairs?
seeing the pic I can see why you’re nervous!

idunnodoi · 11/11/2022 13:56

I could, but feel weird about effectively shutting him in his room at night! He's used to being able to come into my room when he wakes up in the morning.

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MaggieMagpie357 · 11/11/2022 13:58

We used to have a very narrow staircase to the basement off our kitchen, the only type of gate that would fit was a "roller blind" type gate that can fit any space like this one: amzn.eu/d/7ILihCt

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idunnodoi · 11/11/2022 14:00

Unfortunately because of the 'gap' between edge of top stair and the wall, roller blind type one would have a massive gap at the bottom. The yellow line in the pic would be the bottom of the gate.

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MaggieMagpie357 · 11/11/2022 14:02

Wouldn't it be better to gate his bedroom door?

idunnodoi · 11/11/2022 14:13

Yes I can do - was just hoping there might be someway I wasn't seeing so as not to have to!

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idunnodoi · 11/11/2022 14:16

Stairs are steep (old house) which is why I'm particularly nervous.

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JauntyJinty · 11/11/2022 14:18

Can't you install it on the top stair? so the top stair the child would still be able to get onto, but then no further?

idunnodoi · 11/11/2022 14:23

@JauntyJinty do you mean the step in the first photo? Yes that is an option, and I would prefer this to gating the bedroom doorway, but I think could be a risk if DS tried to climb over it as the drop the otherside is just above the stairs.

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Blueskythinking123 · 11/11/2022 14:24

I would get a gate made to go on the first step, so it's higher than a normal gate.

MsInsomniac · 11/11/2022 14:24

My house had exactly same layout. I ended up having to put a gate on his bedroom door like you said as anything else left a big gap at the bottom which I was worried he would fall through. A gate at end of hall I decided too dangerous for exactly reason you said, if he tried to climb it he’d be falling down stairwell other side. Plus you really don’t want trip hazard of a gate bar near the top of those stairs when you have to cross the dropped landing in the night in the dark for the loo. I kept a baby monitor for years and once I heard him up I would go get him and bring him in with me if it was too early to get up. Those stairs are a death trap, all of us have fallen down them at some point now, fortunately no serious injuries…

ChristmasCakeAndStilton · 11/11/2022 14:27

Aged 4, I don't think I'd put in a stair gate.

idunnodoi · 11/11/2022 14:37

@Blueskythinking123 apt name - that's a very good idea! I'm pretty sure his dad could make something. That might be the best option.

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idunnodoi · 11/11/2022 14:42

@MsInsomniac they are certainly not ideal, but we hopefully will only be here for a year if that, and then move somewhere with more normal stairs. Sorry to hear of your falls!

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idunnodoi · 11/11/2022 14:44

@ChristmasCakeAndStilton if the landing bit wasn't so tiny and the stairs so steep I would agree, four is too old. But just one misstep in the night and he could go straight down without some kind of barrier - and I would never sleep!

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maximist · 11/11/2022 14:49

Could you put a normal gate where your yellow line is, but attach a hinged flap to the bottom which would cover the gap between the gate and the landing?

maximist · 11/11/2022 14:51

Like this...

Stairs help please!
maximist · 11/11/2022 14:53

Actually I've just seen that the landing is lower than the steps at either side, the flap would have to lower down spit sloped up at 45degrees or so, but it should be possible if you're a bit handy.

maximist · 11/11/2022 14:53

Spit = so it...

idunnodoi · 11/11/2022 14:54

That is a good idea - but I'm not too confident about being able to attach something like that, might be beyond my DIY skills.

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idunnodoi · 11/11/2022 14:55

Nice diagram by the way :-)

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BobbyBobbyBobby · 11/11/2022 15:50

How did we all manage in the 60s and 70s as I only recall seeing a stair gate in the 1980s?

idunnodoi · 11/11/2022 16:26

I'm sure people managed, but there must have been a lot more nasty accidents prior to gates becoming a thing. I did think that there must have been many children brought up in this house (its pretty old) and wondered how many had taken a tumble down the stairs.

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SomeonesRealName · 11/11/2022 17:06

I am also very impressed by the diagram!

MrsMoastyToasty · 11/11/2022 17:19

Can you put up a battery operated light that be stuck on the skirting board ?