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Question for A&E Dr's or Ambulance drivers....

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Schmeeeee · 08/11/2022 20:32

I've got a totally genuine and really random question that is often on my mind.... Confused

If a women happens to be on her period, is wearing a tampon and finds herself injured enough to be incapacitated or requires emergency attention so quickly she can't talk much, does anyone check down there to see if she's wearing a tampon? I'm just curious as to what the chances are that a woman could develop toxic shock syndrome due to a tampon being left in for too long or forgotten about. Is there some kind of rule that medical staff always check to see if a woman is on her period? And what happens if the woman goes into surgery or is placed in a coma? Does someone take responsibility for changing her sanitary protection?

Told you it was random!Blush

OP posts:
StillWeRise · 09/11/2022 18:57

isthismylifenow · 09/11/2022 13:53

I put some thought into this not so long ago, as I saw an episode of Chicago Med (I know, I know but it made me think)a teenager had soaked a tampon with vodka as she had an alcohol problem and didn't want her parents to notice the smell on her breath.

Dr Charles (the psychiatrist) called it (as usual) as he said he saw she was wearing a tampon on the xray. And all I could think was...... 'you can see a tampon on an xray'??

Maybe it was a scan, but anyway, this certainly got me thinking.

explain please!
was she absorbing the alcohol the walls of her vagina???

PassThePringles · 09/11/2022 18:57

It's unfortunate some may have took offence but I've learned some interesting stuff in this thread! Thanks to everyone who explained things.

I once accidentally offended a doctor which was shameful. As a child I assumed women were nurses and men were doctors so naturally said to my young dc 'follow the nurse' (to the room) and she snapped 'doctor!'... I was, possibly still am, mortified! But that's how we learn 🤷🏼‍♀️
Great question op! More of this and less 'is my husband cheating' scooby doo threads and I'll be a happy camper.

southbailey · 09/11/2022 18:59

Won't let me quote but I can assure that there are ambulance staff who are not highly trained medical professionals.
My partner's son had 3 months medical training then blue light training . That's it. He can't even give paracetamol, only o2 .

Maybe it's a London thing as there is definitely a movement to only having one paramedic (sometimes none eg if it's a fall- but if needed, back up is called) per ambulance.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

EndlessMagpies · 09/11/2022 19:01

My DP was an ambulance man before they invented paramedics, and he still bridles if anyone refers to ambulance 'drivers', so it isn't a new thing.

gogohmm · 09/11/2022 19:02

Contact lenses are really obvious, they check pupils for dilation as part of initial checks. Nurses will check you over if you aren't able to communicate

Teadrinkingmumofone · 09/11/2022 19:06

PinkPlantCase · 08/11/2022 20:52

Not quite the same but similar- I have a relative who cannot hear without hearing aids. He was in a nasty road accident during covid and nobody was allowed to the hospital with him and his hearing aids were smashed up in the accident.

He was put into an induced coma, they tried to bring him out of it a few times but for them to be happy to bring him out of it completely he needed to follow some verbal instructions. He couldn’t follow verbal instructions because he couldn’t hear and he couldn’t tell them that because of the ventilator tube.

Luckily when family were being told about this over the phone they asked if he had any hearing aids in and that solved the problem and some were taken to the hospital.

I really worry about how it is for deaf people who don’t have family to advocate for them in these scenarios.

Scary isn't it. My Husband ended up in hospital and in ICU. They couldn't understand the pain he was experiencing (he was unable to talk) and it wasn't until the Dr spoke to me and I asked if he'd had his numerous medications for ore existing illness and they admitted the notes hadn't been fully read and no he wasn't receiving his medication hence why he was responding so poorly! I have worries about similar scenarios ever since

isthismylifenow · 09/11/2022 19:06

StillWeRise · 09/11/2022 18:57

explain please!
was she absorbing the alcohol the walls of her vagina???

Apparently so, yes.

I had a quick Google and it seems to be a thing. Unbelievably.

CaronPoivre · 09/11/2022 19:07

Actually lots of ambulances are not crewed by paramedics.

Blocked · 09/11/2022 19:10

PinkPlantCase · 08/11/2022 20:52

Not quite the same but similar- I have a relative who cannot hear without hearing aids. He was in a nasty road accident during covid and nobody was allowed to the hospital with him and his hearing aids were smashed up in the accident.

He was put into an induced coma, they tried to bring him out of it a few times but for them to be happy to bring him out of it completely he needed to follow some verbal instructions. He couldn’t follow verbal instructions because he couldn’t hear and he couldn’t tell them that because of the ventilator tube.

Luckily when family were being told about this over the phone they asked if he had any hearing aids in and that solved the problem and some were taken to the hospital.

I really worry about how it is for deaf people who don’t have family to advocate for them in these scenarios.

This is why it's good to have a medical alert on your phone (Health app in the iPhone) or you can get those car seat covers/wallet cards/wristbands with important medical info on.

Lozzybear · 09/11/2022 19:10

@Seaweedandsalt my mum had an x ray when she was pregnant with my brother as they thought she may be having twins due to her size. This was before ultrasounds were available!

southbailey · 09/11/2022 19:12

CaronPoivre · 09/11/2022 19:07

Actually lots of ambulances are not crewed by paramedics.

Yes, I've been trying to explain that tooGrin

GordonShakespearedoesChristmas · 09/11/2022 19:20

Bunnyfuller · 08/11/2022 20:36

And they’re not ambulance drivers.

I came here to say that!
Highly qualified paramedics who see more trauma in a working week than the rest of us see in a lifetime.

Anunusualfamily · 09/11/2022 19:24

@PassThePringles if she hadn’t introduced herself with her job title then that’s a genuine mistake and is on her nothing to be embarrassed about. I used to work in a hospital where all theatre staff wore the same scrubs I would often mix up the (mostly male middle aged greying) porters and surgeons who would all push beds. You get good at asking who they are

Wasywasydoodah · 09/11/2022 19:34

isthismylifenow · 09/11/2022 19:06

Apparently so, yes.

I had a quick Google and it seems to be a thing. Unbelievably.

Also, sometimes people funnel alcohol into their anus. Sad but true.

CaronPoivre · 09/11/2022 19:49

GordonShakespearedoesChristmas · 09/11/2022 19:20

I came here to say that!
Highly qualified paramedics who see more trauma in a working week than the rest of us see in a lifetime.

Unless they are a) not paramedics or b) not employed on clinical duties or c) working in a GP practice or d) waiting outside an emergency department or d) working in another role such as a HALO.

It’s a bit more complicated than dialling 999 and an ambulance turns up quickly with two paramedics aboard. Quite a lot of category 1 calls (the most serious, life threatening emergencies) don’t have a paramedic on the first ambulance to arrive. Lots of Cat 2 and 3 calls don’t. All the crew are in green usually, but not all are paramedics.

ZeppelinTits · 09/11/2022 19:59

I'm convinced that when this was posted on MN before the wording was almost identical! Weird.

PaperwhiteTheGhost · 09/11/2022 20:00

southbailey · 09/11/2022 18:59

Won't let me quote but I can assure that there are ambulance staff who are not highly trained medical professionals.
My partner's son had 3 months medical training then blue light training . That's it. He can't even give paracetamol, only o2 .

Maybe it's a London thing as there is definitely a movement to only having one paramedic (sometimes none eg if it's a fall- but if needed, back up is called) per ambulance.

I am a London paramedic. What you have described is called an Associate Ambulance Practitioner. And what you have missed out is a further year training on the job, being taught buy paramedics and EMTs and gaining valuable experience, after which he can do further training to upgrade to an EMT and even to a paramedic.

He can give paracetamol, he just has to ok it with his mentor.

He is also exposed to the full shebang of working with the general public, plus all kinds of horrific sights.

But hey, go ahead and tell him he's just an ambulance driver.

ParrotsAteThemAll · 09/11/2022 20:01

All patients are checked head to toe for wounds, signs of infection, pressure damage etc unless a patient is conscious and has mental capacity to refuse. A tampon will be removed and a pad will be used instead as we won’t know how long it’s been in for.

PaperwhiteTheGhost · 09/11/2022 20:01

Also, yes the suggestion of having a "paramedic and driver" model has been floated many times and is ALWAYS vetoed by the unions as being unsafe for both public and crew, as well as deeply unfair on both driver and medic. It won't happen.

PaperwhiteTheGhost · 09/11/2022 20:04

southbailey · 09/11/2022 19:12

Yes, I've been trying to explain that tooGrin

Not being a paramedic doesn't make you an ambulance driver.

JuvenileEmu · 09/11/2022 20:45

isthismylifenow · 09/11/2022 13:53

I put some thought into this not so long ago, as I saw an episode of Chicago Med (I know, I know but it made me think)a teenager had soaked a tampon with vodka as she had an alcohol problem and didn't want her parents to notice the smell on her breath.

Dr Charles (the psychiatrist) called it (as usual) as he said he saw she was wearing a tampon on the xray. And all I could think was...... 'you can see a tampon on an xray'??

Maybe it was a scan, but anyway, this certainly got me thinking.

Intriguing. So what happens if you soak a tampon in alcohol before using it?

MrsMorton · 10/11/2022 07:16

Wasywasydoodah · 09/11/2022 19:34

Also, sometimes people funnel alcohol into their anus. Sad but true.

Ever heard of "decanting"? Read an article about it in my forensics journal years ago and have been unable to forget.

TheWomanTheyCallJayne · 11/11/2022 00:13

I hate threads like this where the op makes a mistakes and owns up to it but the rest of the thread is people castigating them for it rather than talking about what the thread was meant to be about.

I have wondered this before op. and about contacts and also people who are unconscious that have metal in their bodies.
Its reassuring to hear from some about how these things are dealt with

Booklover3 · 11/11/2022 00:46

I’ve wondered this too OP. Thank you for asking it!

TEARELBO · 11/11/2022 00:47

borderterrierr · 08/11/2022 21:08

@NippyWoowoo you can see contact lenses on looking at the eyes for pupil dilation. You can remove them there and then if the patient is going to icu in a coma.

Would they throw away the contact lenses
i wear gp’s costing €450 a pair and take weeks to get on order - omg if I woke up and my contacts were gone I’d probably pass out again 😳