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A&E was a complete shock - MH crisis?

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Longtimeteacher · 06/11/2022 00:30

In the very early hours of yesterday morning, my DH woke with excruciating pain in his side and across his lower back. DH is not a complainer and rarely poorly, therefore I knew it must be bad, so at 1am we set off for A&E.

We arrived at about 1.30am (Wales) and DH proceeded to have his bloods and other samples collected etc and then came the wait…15 hours. We finally arrived home at 5pm this afternoon.

Luckily DH is fine. It looks like a stomach ulcer from Ibuprofen use, but I was shocked by what A&E is dealing with. Just last night there were 6 people brought in due to suicide attempts or threats, often with 2 police officers per person.
I was sat near the reception and there was no attempt to promote confidentiality, I suppose it was impossible being as busy as it was. Phone numbers and addresses, full names etc said aloud.

So in the space of just a few hours there were six poor people in A&E due to threat of suicide; held by police or security all night until the MH team came in this morning; another 4 or 5 people were in, clearly for other severe mental health issues - panic attacks; types of personality disorders etc There were only a few people with breaks or falls or bad tummy’s. The majority, were MH related. And seeing those people was a real eye opener too - the MH issues were blinding clear bless them and not at all mild.

Is this a sign of the current times? We clearly need so much more time and money put into MH. Was it just a particularly bad night, or is it always like this?

The staff were amazing with these people. Real professionals with compassion and understanding, but there were sooo many people to try to deal with, taking up a lot of time and resource.

I really was shocked by the extent of the issue last night. It’s seems such a very big problem.

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Butterfly44 · 06/11/2022 11:31

It really is devastating. MH crisis is huge and there is no resource to cope with it :(

Monoplane · 06/11/2022 12:08

PearsInASalad · 06/11/2022 02:03

Sounds about right, but I don't think it's anything new and it really depends on area. Bit of a ramble but this is my experience with the NHS mental health services 10 years ago:

I'm completely fine now luckily, but I went through two years of grieving/PTSD when I was aged 17-19. I was completely catatonic for most of those two years, spending days on end lay staring at the ceiling, not eating or drinking or doing anything really. I didn't leave the house, I didn't shower, I didn't see other humans. I did visit the GP about it regularly but they kept telling me that there was a two year wait for help. I went to A&E on 5 different occasions and very politely explained to them that I was going to attempt suicide because the pain was too much to bear any longer, but each time they sent me away and told me to contact my GP in the morning. The GP would tell me that there was still well over a year left to wait for any help, so I'd very seriously attempt suicide. Thankfully I wasn't any good at it! It would just result in me spending a few days swimming in and out of consciousness with awful diarrhea and then feeling groggy and kind of hungover for a few weeks afterwards. After two long years I finally got my appointment to see somebody... And they told me that my mental health was too unstable for the therapy that they offered, and I was put on another list with an estimated waiting time of 9+ months😂Eventually I began feeling better on my own as the grief passed and the trauma faded, I moved to the next town over for a fresh start and only had to wait 6 weeks to start counselling in the new town. Such a massive difference a mere 10 miles makes! But yes, some places have been absolutely drowning for years now. A few of my friends had similar A&E experiences to mine as teenagers too.

Big unmumsnetty hugs to your younger self x

MrsSkylerWhite · 06/11/2022 12:09

Nothing new, sadly. Experienced pretty much the same taking our then 13 year old in one Saturday evening 6 years ago.

Fentylipgloss · 06/11/2022 15:09

I had a mental crisis today feeling suicidal and self harming. I called the crisis team and I'm still waiting to hear back, that was 5 hours ago. I don't want to go to hospital ... so I guess I'll just pray to god I don't take action. I'm close to the edge. Being told to reach out for help is all well and good - but the help isn't there :-(

Deathraystare · 06/11/2022 15:22

This is getting worse and worse!

I work in a mental health unit. We used to have a walk in but not now. Unfortunately the same people we saw then in the walk in , come back and expect to be seen by us. I have to explain that they can either go to their GP (yeah right!) to be referred or to A&E and ask to speak to a psychiatrist. It is particularly hard when dealing with a relative at their wit's end with a family member. It makes me feel useless so imagine how the families must feel.

braggingaboutbrasize · 06/11/2022 15:24

Before 30 years ago we had large mental health hospitals in the UK. These were closed and the land sold off under the 'Care in the Community' policy. I'm not saying they were perfect, but they were somewhere for people in crisis to go. There is hardly anything now. I am raging just thinking about this.

Goingtogoinsane · 06/11/2022 15:31

I’m interested to know where in Wales you were as I had a similar experience a few months back, I made a written complaint about the complete lack of confidentiality. It was disgusting.

miceonabranch · 06/11/2022 15:32

Fentylipgloss · 06/11/2022 15:09

I had a mental crisis today feeling suicidal and self harming. I called the crisis team and I'm still waiting to hear back, that was 5 hours ago. I don't want to go to hospital ... so I guess I'll just pray to god I don't take action. I'm close to the edge. Being told to reach out for help is all well and good - but the help isn't there :-(

Do you have any friends or family you could call?

Mabelface · 06/11/2022 15:35

If only people got the help they need at first point of contact. Imagine the lives that could save, and money in the long run as fewer people would need admitting.

HopeMumsnet · 06/11/2022 16:15

Hello @Fentylipgloss, we're so sorry you're feeling so low - you've had such a tough time of things.
Some of your fellow posters are concerned for you. We hope you don't mind, but in these circumstances we usually add a link to our Mental Health resources. You can also go to the Samaritans website or email them on [email protected]. Support from other Mumsnetters is great and we really hope you will be able to take some comfort from your fellow posters, but as other MNers will tell you, it's really a good idea to seek RL help and support as well.
We also like to remind everyone that, although we're awed daily by the astonishing support our members give each other through life's trickier twists and turns, we'd always caution anyone never to give more of themselves to another poster, emotionally or financially, than they can afford to spare.
Best wishes from MNHQ to everyone who is having a tough time right now, whether you or your family members or friends. x

Phantomb · 06/11/2022 16:34

DS (20) with ASD and learning difficulties has been on the waiting list for MH therapy due to self harming, suicidal thoughts, depression and severe social anxiety for 16 months now. We recently had his first appointment with a psychiatrist which was basically confirming he needed therapy and would be kept on the list!

He cannot access education or employment due to it so is a prisoner at home and its a miracle he hasn’t deteriorated enough to need A&E. It is an absolute disgrace.

Longtimeteacher · 06/11/2022 17:14

Fentylipgloss · 06/11/2022 15:09

I had a mental crisis today feeling suicidal and self harming. I called the crisis team and I'm still waiting to hear back, that was 5 hours ago. I don't want to go to hospital ... so I guess I'll just pray to god I don't take action. I'm close to the edge. Being told to reach out for help is all well and good - but the help isn't there :-(

Sending hugs and a hand hold 💜 Please reach out to someone for some support if you can.

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