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A ‘smart financial moves’ thread

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crabsaremisunderstood · 05/11/2022 21:10

A space to share anything and everything, big or small, that has helped your finances in some way recently. You never know - it might help another person on this thread!

My smart move was opening a Lifetime ISA 3 years ago. The government gives you 25% on top of everything you put in, on funds up to £4k a year. If you put in £1k, you get £250 extra! I bought my first house this year and wouldn’t have become a homeowner if it hadn’t been for this. For those that have already bought a first home, you can also use it to give yourself a retirement fund. Smile

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Chickenvoicesinmyhead · 06/11/2022 12:06

My biggest smart move didn't come from spare money. It was changing my mortgage to a lower rate product and overpaying with the difference, so no extra going out.

I also switch many things yearly. Gone are the days of loyalty discounts sadly. Insurances, breakdown cover etc. Infact if you do a breakdown cover change each year through Quidco, you can get massive savings. Like £60/£70.

AA breakdown also gets you discounts, Quidco is great. Nat West Rewards account. £2 per month and cashback that exceeds that from day 1.

BlueWalnut · 06/11/2022 12:09

My best financial move was investing in home insulation, draft proofing and solar panels for my small home rather than using the money to trade up to a larger house. I made the changes for environmental reasons mainly, but it has proved to be a sensible financial move too.

mansviewpoint · 06/11/2022 12:12
  • Be very lucky and be able to afford to save a little bit each month.
  • Realise deals are only deals if you were buying it anyway, not if you thought "Oh I won't be able to get it that cheap elsewhere", because you wouldn't have bought it.
  • Make do and mend.
  • Buy what you can afford and need, what not you want.
  • 1% Cash back Credit Card paid off monthly.
  • ISAs.
  • Once you get to 3K in savings then you have just about enough to pay for any rainy day (Boiler / Car etc...) so after that each time it hits 4K, either pay more into your mortgage or into fixed rate long term savings or into shares.

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Gazelda · 06/11/2022 12:21

Overpay mortgage when possible
Sim only phone contact
Use Cashback sites - Quidco, topcashback etc
YNAB
Set all DDs to go out same day of month.
Budget council tax and water rates for 12 months. Keep the money you've set aside in Feb, Mar to cover the following year's uplift.
Paid surveys for extra pocket money
Set up a pension early (I was 19).
Use loyalty points for treats - clubcard, nectar etc
Involve DC in all of this (age appropriate) to help tech them money skills.

Byfleet · 06/11/2022 12:25

@Hudsonriver
It is a simple fact of economics that almost all money is made from money. The days are long gone where simple hard work and smart decisions could set you up. I know this because I was brought up in a working class family. My parents were smart and on the ball and worked very, very hard all their lives and yet could not have made many of these 'smart' decisions, because you need some money to make them in the first place. They were not victims or fatalists, they were resourceful, ingenious people who saved and saved, they just didn't have the basic pot of money to start them off on the road of making more money.

DH came from a middle class family and does a job that he and his colleagues consider demanding and worth the money they earn (it is not). In his family and social circle people often talk in a self congratulatorily way about the fact that they have made it by themselves. But they haven't. Help from parents when you are doing an unpaid internship, a small inheritance to fund an MA, a little deposit for a first house from your god parents will. All these things help, and they mean that you can save and be careful and make sensible choices for starting a pension or buying a house young whilst at the same time really believing it's because you have self control and you are smart. I know this because I am now one of those privileged people. I have been able to make all of my smart decisions because of the safety net provided by money from DH and his family. And most of their money has been made from other money (eg. property price increases and inheritance) rather than their smart moves or 'hard work'.

yogiil · 06/11/2022 12:33

I agree with you @Byfleet

glasshole · 06/11/2022 12:37

We are over paying the tiny mortgage on my DHs flat so that we will reduce the term from 9 years to 5 which conveniently is when the 2.4% fix ends. The flat is for our retirement, it's a ground floor and fully accessible as I'm disabled so future proofing is important to us. Then we will have 3-4 years to totally hammer into the savings account for his retirement. He is already over paying into his pension at 15%.

Womencanlift · 06/11/2022 12:39

I “pay myself” on pay day which means I have a standing order that goes straight to my savings account

I also set a reminder on my phone for 9pm the day before pay day (as unlikely to spend between then and when I get paid). Anything left in my account, after I take pending payments into account, also gets moved over. Even if it’s a few pounds it adds up

sessell · 06/11/2022 12:57

Twinklenoseblows · 05/11/2022 23:22

Not overpaying my mortgage when I can beat the interest rate with savings. So right now my mortgage is 2.01%, but by splitting my overpayment across various savings accounts I can average c.4% interest. So I will keep my "overpaymehts" until I have to remortgage at a rate which is worse than the savings rate, at which point I'll pay the overpayment in so it doesn't count towards the permitted 10% overpayment.

This. Also as an over 50s self employed person I put all my surplus direct into my pension, from my business before tax and the government adds 25%. I can take out 25% of the pension from age 55, so I see it as an extremely high interest paying savings account. However has to be said overall my pension is rubbish compared to friends in public sector jobs.

808Kate1 · 06/11/2022 13:04

@Sausagedoggy Recommend a SIPP instead then as you'll get 20% govt top-up (or higher, dependent which tax band you're in)

TheDuchessOfMN · 06/11/2022 13:07

Womencanlift · 06/11/2022 12:39

I “pay myself” on pay day which means I have a standing order that goes straight to my savings account

I also set a reminder on my phone for 9pm the day before pay day (as unlikely to spend between then and when I get paid). Anything left in my account, after I take pending payments into account, also gets moved over. Even if it’s a few pounds it adds up

I always transfer a set amount of money into my savings account on every pay day. I quite like the idea of calling it “paying myself” Grin

Luckydip1 · 06/11/2022 13:18

Protecting your credit rating by paying mortgage on time every time even if you have to eat baked beans.
Avoiding a situation where you could become a forced seller of your home and have to accept a big discount...
Avoiding credit cards.
Living within your means.

DownNative · 06/11/2022 13:20

Hudsonriver · 06/11/2022 11:53

Labelling people who make different financial decisions to you as" rich" isn't helpful.
Most people aren't rich.
The difference between those who are financially stable on average wages and those who see themselves as poor is as simple as the decisions they make.

Overspending by £100 a month vs underspending by £100.

The best financial decisions I ever made was to stop labelling myself and others,stop comparing myself to others and set my own goals.

Absolutely spot on, @Hudsonriver! I changed my mentality towards money completely in late 2019 which has been a revelation.

And I'm certainly not rich by any means, but not struggling either on less than £20k a year. Before 2019, I had zero savings. Now I have enough to last me several months should I lose my job at any point.

How we view things informs our behaviours. 100%.

NuNameNuMe · 06/11/2022 13:21

Set up SIPPs and pay into pensions for my young adult kids when they were early twenties so at uni or in scrappy first jobs. Get them started before they start a long term career or employment. Explained to my son why it's good to pay the £60 odd quid to get another full years national insurance from when he had part time work. Always told them to join the company pension/ nest pension. Basically pensions!!

Hudsonriver · 06/11/2022 14:02

TheDuchessOfMN · 06/11/2022 13:07

I always transfer a set amount of money into my savings account on every pay day. I quite like the idea of calling it “paying myself” Grin

Look up Alvin Hall
His motto was " pay yourself first"Grin

Hudsonriver · 06/11/2022 14:11

DownNative · 06/11/2022 13:20

Absolutely spot on, @Hudsonriver! I changed my mentality towards money completely in late 2019 which has been a revelation.

And I'm certainly not rich by any means, but not struggling either on less than £20k a year. Before 2019, I had zero savings. Now I have enough to last me several months should I lose my job at any point.

How we view things informs our behaviours. 100%.

Fantastic @DownNative !

Just to be clear I do understand privilege @Byfleet but it's disempowering to place your chances in life as whether you are rich or not and give up based on that.
Most of us aren't rich!
Go onto MSE and look up the stories there, or Stepchange/ CAP
ML and SC/CAP don't hand people money on a plate they empower people to make changes based on their circumstances.

user1471538283 · 06/11/2022 14:53

That's exactly it @Byfleet - I would have made better decisions in general and done things differently if I'd had any financial back up.

coodawoodashooda · 06/11/2022 16:17

gawditswindy · 06/11/2022 08:20

That is my weakness. I shop at Aldi but always find an excuse to nip to Tesco/Sainsburys/Coop and spend £30-£40 on nothing.

Yeah. I try and mentally really notice what I am coming away with at the till. The odd tenner quickly becomes a couple of hundred pounds over a month.

buzzing · 06/11/2022 17:48

My tip would be to choose a partner who is on the same financial page as you. It’s hard to be the saver and always looking / thinking to the future when your DH doesn’t have the same attitude.

Zipps · 06/11/2022 18:21

buzzing · 06/11/2022 17:48

My tip would be to choose a partner who is on the same financial page as you. It’s hard to be the saver and always looking / thinking to the future when your DH doesn’t have the same attitude.

Absolutely! Not just a saver though but someone prepared to invest rather than just save and watch your savings erode. Neither would I cope with someone scroogelike who counts every penny, buys the cheapest everything and can't enjoy themselves.

buzzing · 06/11/2022 20:29

Zipps · 06/11/2022 18:21

Absolutely! Not just a saver though but someone prepared to invest rather than just save and watch your savings erode. Neither would I cope with someone scroogelike who counts every penny, buys the cheapest everything and can't enjoy themselves.

Oh yes. We were fortunate enough to receive a significant inheritance from my husbands side - enough to clear the mortgage. DH was insistent that this is what we did, even though I tried to explain that we could do more with it than that. And I’m an accountant so have some idea what I’m talking about!

Since the mortgage has been paid off, he’s taken his career in a different direction as he “doesn’t need to earn so much” with no thought to pension or home improvements or kids uni fees or holidays or anything ahead of what his monthly “running” costs are. It’s frustrating and, to be honest, it makes me rethink the whole relationship 😔

crabsaremisunderstood · 07/11/2022 07:00

Kennykenkencat · 06/11/2022 11:29

I paid into a pension for years

It doesn’t mean that I get anything back.

We worked evenings and weekends for a year to raise enough to buy the tiniest flat on the market

On paper I should have a comfortable life. I did everything right

Instead I am in my 60s, I have no pension but the state pension if I live that long to see it. (They keep upping the pension age)
I live in a rented house with the only income from sporadic freelance work. (One area of freelance work has dried up because I am not vaccinated as I am allergic to the vaccine)

Over the years the NHS was supposed to treat my slipped disc instead they refused to investigate and I was off work for 7 years in agony with no income

The NHS was supposed to treat dh’s cancer But the GP wouldn’t refer him and told him to keep off Dr Google as he was just frightening himself. Instead to access treatment we had to pay for dh’s operations, cancer treatment and hospital bed (6 figures+) and the 20 months we had with no income with him off work and myself acting as carer which ate up his pension and our savings.
Then Covid put paid to jobs, business.Had to sell our home quickly.

Any money we have is being eaten up with bills. (Rent and electricity last winter was over £2000 per month)

I live in a terrace house in a crummy area.
If I was to have my life over I wouldn’t bother saving. I wouldn’t go to work. I wouldn’t buy a house. I would live off the state and not have any worries and claim for everything. Might pay into private health insurance

The results wouldn’t be much different and I would probably live longer and dc would be happier.

I have done all the things on this thread that were available to me
I even earned so little last year that I was due a tax rebate as I paid tax on my earnings. Like my pension I was told that I would get the money back. HMRC have no record of tax having been paid. Pensions I paid into the money was used to pay off the companies debts.

You think you have everything sorted but something always comes along to screw it up. I don’t plan for anything and I certainly don’t believe any rubbish about pay in now and get money back later

It might work for other people but not for me.

Thank you for your honest post, and so sorry. Hope things look up for you very soon Flowers

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PottyDottyDotPot · 07/11/2022 07:38

Cashed out a final salary pension when the cash offer was really high about a year ago and bought an annuity with some of it now you annuity rates have gone up.

Foxhassmellysocks · 07/11/2022 07:48

Following

AlmondCoffee · 07/11/2022 08:16

@Puddywoodycat

Do you have a separate bank accounts for all pots?

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