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Is this cultural or is he just being an arse

37 replies

Superwash · 02/11/2022 17:17

Older middle aged man from South Africa, appointed to a fairly junior position.

He's doing very well with the work and workload, but is upsetting ever

OP posts:
tara66 · 02/11/2022 19:40

Send him to Charm School.

tara66 · 02/11/2022 19:43

To lose a country is unfortunate to lose a whole continent is carelessness - maybe he is aware of this.

Drodeadledbedfedheadredsaid · 02/11/2022 19:45

Just have a progress meeting with everyone separately so noone is singled out and tell him finger wagging is unacceptable in the work place it is rude to interrupt so please don't and tell him how to handle when needs things. Also suggest lowering tone of voice in office he can't help his accent lots of people perceive this accent to be rude or aggressive like Russian but it's not. If you haven't got the authority to do this you need to inform someone higher up not of his accent but of finger wagging and whatever else it is.

FeelMyBicep · 02/11/2022 22:52

A client of mine is South African. She's aggressive & intimidating. She maintains it's her culture. My take...manners cost nothing, lose your excuses & grow up. Of course, I could never say that. I just keep communication to a minimum. She's rude and not a good representative of her company - but it's just 'the culture' apparently.

HotWashCycle · 03/11/2022 17:10

You need to speak to him OP as you are his manager. Stay polite but be direct and firm. Tell him that while you understand that the way he talks in the office is normal in South Africa, the way he interacts with colleagues is not suitable here, and needs to change. You can give specifics about finger wagging and interrupting which are regarded here as rude and aggressive. Also explain that opening with Listen sounds aggressive and Look sounds argumentative. So for smoother communication in future, he needs to be aware of these things, and tone down the behaviours to fit in with norms here.

BadSkiingMum · 03/11/2022 17:19

How about if he replaces the 'Listen' and the 'Look' with 'So....'

That immediately applies some hesitancy and diffidence to blend him right in. 😁

I also suggest replacing the finger-wagging with a vague waist-height waft of the hand.

superplumb · 04/11/2022 19:57

White south Africans I've spoken to are very direct and come across as rude.
However, cultural or ot

superplumb · 04/11/2022 19:58

Should say...cultural or not, he needs to be told that his behaviour isnt acceptable.

SaySomethingMan · 04/11/2022 20:01

I know quite a number of black South Africans and have never come across this behaviour.

DisforDarkChocolate · 04/11/2022 20:03

He sounds bloody awful.

I'm surprised you haven't had a formal complaint yet to be honest.

MrsTerryPratchett · 04/11/2022 20:06

SaySomethingMan · 04/11/2022 20:01

I know quite a number of black South Africans and have never come across this behaviour.

Well no, it's a wildly different culture.

saraclara · 04/11/2022 20:08

I've come across quite a few white South African bosses in a neighboring country. I've found their manner with their local employees really quite disturbing. Not just direct, but sharp and bordering aggressive. I'd assumed racism, but reading this thread, maybe that's how they'd treat their fellow white South Africans too.

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