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Train strike and how do people going work and school on these days

42 replies

rka2017 · 02/11/2022 12:52

Hi all,
how people going to work on train strike days if their only mode of transport is train

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Aleaiactaest · 02/11/2022 15:25

The Queen’s funeral cost billions because of the extra bank holiday and people not working for 1 day and not being able to go to work. People not going to work due to not being able to travel costs millions and millions.
I would like to know how many millions and millions the strikes cost the country and I fully support legislation to make the RMT pay for those costs. They have striked already and still not happy with whatever they negotiated.
If doctors and midwives strike people die. People also die when there is no public transport for days on end over a year. It costs millions and causes death and misery and poverty. So it is selfish and should not be supported. It is blackmail. Furthermore, striking when there are PM changes and cabinet changes and upheaval is even more selfish and pointless anyway.

Beezknees · 02/11/2022 15:42

I'm related to a train driver and he doesn't get paid when they strike! He doesn't want to strike as he's happy with his salary and conditions but feels he has to in solidarity.

madnesss · 02/11/2022 15:51

Beezknees · 02/11/2022 15:42

I'm related to a train driver and he doesn't get paid when they strike! He doesn't want to strike as he's happy with his salary and conditions but feels he has to in solidarity.

Of course they don't get paid, I'm amazed anyone thinks these workers are not losing out here.

People believe what suits them though, it's easier to side against them if you believe they are not losing out, a bit harder if someone says 'but they are losing hundreds of pounds to strike'

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Aleaiactaest · 02/11/2022 13:38

My neighbour’s twins have GCSE mocks next week at their grammar, a train ride away. Their consultant doctor parents have to take the day off to drive them there. There goes a few more disappointed patients.
This is the third batch of train strikes affecting the kids and it is 2-3 days at a time. It is a nightmare. As if they have not had enough post Covid. I don’t support the strikes, anymore. All sympathy gone now.

If they're both consultants surely they can afford a taxi?

madnesss · 02/11/2022 15:55

If they're both consultants surely they can afford a taxi?

Mad; isn't it?

Poor consultant doctors 🤦🏻‍♀️

IhearyouClemFandango · 02/11/2022 15:55

Aleaiactaest · 02/11/2022 15:09

What I would really like is an analysis of what the RMT is costing the country during these strikes. We got an estimate for the Queen’s funeral services into the billions.
I would like to know how much the economy loses due to the RMT striking. It commenced in June as far as I remember and they have already striked for many days. Enough is enough. The country is on its knees and they are putting themselves and their workers above the rest of us, not OK.

Someone has the country on its knees, and it isn't the unions.

IhearyouClemFandango · 02/11/2022 15:56

Aleaiactaest · 02/11/2022 13:38

My neighbour’s twins have GCSE mocks next week at their grammar, a train ride away. Their consultant doctor parents have to take the day off to drive them there. There goes a few more disappointed patients.
This is the third batch of train strikes affecting the kids and it is 2-3 days at a time. It is a nightmare. As if they have not had enough post Covid. I don’t support the strikes, anymore. All sympathy gone now.

Why do both parents have to go?

madnesss · 02/11/2022 15:57

Aleaiactaest · 02/11/2022 15:25

The Queen’s funeral cost billions because of the extra bank holiday and people not working for 1 day and not being able to go to work. People not going to work due to not being able to travel costs millions and millions.
I would like to know how many millions and millions the strikes cost the country and I fully support legislation to make the RMT pay for those costs. They have striked already and still not happy with whatever they negotiated.
If doctors and midwives strike people die. People also die when there is no public transport for days on end over a year. It costs millions and causes death and misery and poverty. So it is selfish and should not be supported. It is blackmail. Furthermore, striking when there are PM changes and cabinet changes and upheaval is even more selfish and pointless anyway.

I think my initial instinct that entering discussion with you would be pointless was bang on.

Sallycinnamum · 02/11/2022 16:12

The vast majority of drivers belong to Aslef, not the RMT and no they don't get a day's wages if they strike.

Most of the RMT members are striking because the government wants to shut every single ticket office and get rid of staff presence late at night.

Most rail workers earn on average £25k and haven't had a pay increase for 3 years. Plus the DfT haven't even bothered to attend pay talks with network rail and train operating companies.

Don't blame the workers but the incompetent DfT who have led the rail workers and unions into taking action.

TorviShieldMaiden · 02/11/2022 17:50

RMT workers are ticket office workers, railway station workers. It’s isn’t just about money. It’s about safety. If they close all ticket offices, many disabled people will suffer. A lack of staff at night puts women at risk.

The nurses are balloting, as are Unison, and BMJ are considering it for doctors. Enough is enough.

As an aside, I live in the north where public transport is far worse than London.

ilovesooty · 02/11/2022 17:56

IhearyouClemFandango · 02/11/2022 15:55

Someone has the country on its knees, and it isn't the unions.

Exactly.

Faultymain5 · 02/11/2022 17:59

madnesss · 02/11/2022 15:23

I know for a fact because a friend told me who works for one of the train companies, that sometimes if drivers couldn't be bothered to drive the train (e.g. at Victoria) then they just wouldn't turn up. Which meant that then we had to wait for another train!

Employ some critical thinking skills here and ask yourself if, realistically, showing up for work if and when you feel like it would be at all acceptable by an employer.

Seeing as they generally earn approx. £54,000 per annum

You know it's not just driver affected? This goes right down the chain of workers.

People who quote these ‘facts’ don’t care to know. Pointless engaging. They’ll soon be spouting those 6 5 figures the union reps get. Whilst living in council homes.

Shinyandnew1 · 02/11/2022 18:01

Aleaiactaest · 02/11/2022 14:31

Some of the teachers at my DC’s schools cannot get into work next week. A number of our neighbours who are doctors, nurses, midwives etc cannot get into London to go to work in the big teaching hospitals.
NHS staff in general, teachers etc would have far more reasons to strike. Fed up with the RMT thinking they are special. It is a crap time for everyone. They have already striked several times. I have zero sympathy left and the same applies to literally all my friends in the NHS and teachers etc.

Teachers are balloting for strike action at the moment, so are head teachers. I was under the impression nurses were, too.

stopringingme · 02/11/2022 18:19

Almost all Train Drivers are members of ASLEF.

They do not get paid for their strike day.

When my DH was a postman about 26 years ago and they used to go on strike for weeks at a time the only payment they got from the union was a couple of pounds a day to cover their food.

You can still get to your destination if you plan your journey, the revised timetable is available about a week ahead.

Posters should really look past the headlines and read up on who is striking and why, and who is balloting to strike.

Everyone has a right to strike.

NotTerfNorCis · 04/11/2022 17:08

So the strikes are cancelled. A big relief for my personally because I don't drive and was relying on trains to get me where I needed to go on Saturday and Monday. Not sure what to think. Is anyone else conflicted? I believe in the right to strike and protest, but this is harming a lot of people beyond the bosses they're in conflict with.

madnesss · 04/11/2022 17:21

LNER have announced no timetable changes as it's too short notice so I would check with your train operator to see if they have reinstated normal service. You may not find a train so easily on Saturday.

NotTerfNorCis · 04/11/2022 18:23

Oh okay, thanks for that - I've got a train tomorrow morning.

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