British passport, Irish christening?

[Babydrama2022]

Baby is half Irish, half British. British passport. Currently living in England.

Baby is due to be christened in Ireland shortly, but we have concerns the father may at a later date refuse to return the Baby to British mother. Either refusing to fly home or flying back to Ireland at a later date.

Father under the impression the Irish christening overrules British citizenship and mother would have no help in getting Baby returned.
This sounds bonkers to me?

Any help?

I never realised how hard our passports were till I joined MN and saw how much easier British ones were! The whole going to the garda station to get things witnessed after going to the school to get things witnessed and in my case going to a solicitor for an affadavit to prove I am sole guardian really does seem very very irish - to be sure to be sure to be sure and all that.

Apologies @Igglepiggleslittletoe I did. My bad.

I'm a teacher in Belfast. I sign to witness Irish ones all the time.
But that's with a birth certificate.
I felt getting the kids Irish ones was easier than the British one. (we have both)

You don't have to go to a Garda station if you're applying outside of Ireland. I'm in UK and just got me DS Irish passport. His Head Teacher was able to witness our signatures and verify his identity.

Irish passports are more restrictive in terms of who can sign forms (fewer professions listed) but they don't need to have known you 2 years.

I was just talking about getting an Irish passport while over here sorry for confusion.

What if he needed a passport to go abroad 😵‍💫😵‍💫

@WakingUpDistress we were planning to go to Spain this year but my ex wouldn't sign the passport so we couldn't go. We have to wait until dd turns 18 next year.

What a rubbish fucked up system!!

Google tells us he is able to apply for an Irish passport without his birth cert. Just a baptism certificate
This is the problem with googling something this serious, this is completely FALSE!
This sounds very serious so the mother should get legal advice.

Hi I read the Irish passport rules earlier today. I take it the father is born in Ireland and baby is born in England?
If so then he would need a photocopy of his Irish passport, and the baby's birth certificate. And the signature agreement of the mother. Without this the passport will not be issued. So the baptism is not an issue.
Baby has dual citizenship by nature of being born in England to an Irish born parent.

This isn't the case. I know you chose not to, but you could have applied to court for permission to get passports & travel. Of course you don't have to wait until they are 18!

It's one or the other.

You need to have the application witnessed. Can be by a Garda or another listed profession. It isn't both (ie school + Garda).

Is the father Irish? My kids are entitled to a passport (as granny was born there) but it’s going to take over 2 years as they need to registered on Register of Foreign Births, before passport application.