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How clueless were you when young?

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SEmyarse · 30/10/2022 12:00

Well, it's a luxury of being young isn't it? And I'm certainly hoping to hear some amusing tales of minor cluelessness, but I honestly think my levels were off the scale, and do wonder if there was something wrong with me to end up in my situation. Not that it matters now, it was a long time ago, just mulling. This will be long, soz.

When I was 16 a new lad joined our church youth group. He was 18, and the cousin of my best mate from when I was 13 who had moved away, so I hung around him a bit to get contact with the cousin which not only failed but gave him the wrong impression. He kept asking me out, which I wasn't interested in, but then he started to bring me 'romantic' gifts (in the youth group), think padded cards and teddies with messages. I was mortified and agreed to go out with him to STOP him doing this. I must be the only person to agree to a boyfriend to stop the romance!!

i very much regretted this, but very shortly after this I was woken by my mother one morning to be told that he'd moved into our spare room overnight because his mum had chucked him out. I felt stuck.

So we did some normal boyfriend/girlfriend stuff, went to the pictures etc. One evening he took me into the quarry (grassed over) at the end of our road, and after telling me how much he loved me asked if I'd like to see his penis. This seemed an odd question to me, but OK? I just don't understand how I got to 16.5 without EVER having had any thoughts about sex. Even if uninterested, you'd have thought I would have overheard others discussing it, but I simply don't think it had ever crossed my consciousness.

So he got his nob out and I just er looked at it. And he asked if I'd like to touch it. I could see the expected answer was yes, so I stroked it like a cat!!! Things moved on and he had sex with me. I don't recall being upset or surprised or anything, i just sort of accepted this is what boyfriends do. Although sex wasn't on my radar I had seen James Bond films, so lying down with someone seemed appropriate I guess.

I was deeply unhappy, but stayed with him for 2 years until I finished college. I was supposed to be going to uni, but he talked me out of it. I did however KNOW I needed to get away. So I signed up to a scheme for a year, looking after disabled students. He wasn't happy but it was better than 3 years of uni, so off I went with strict instructions to phone every other day (from a call box).

As soon as I was gone I felt a million times better, and just basically stopped phoning almost immediately, without actually ever breaking up. I was having the time of my life, and I was really attracted to one of the disabled guys. But my attraction was based on him being a total rock star, cute floppy hair, party animal etc. i thought he was cool as, but I did NOT have any sexual thoughts about him. In fact I'd still never had sexual thoughts about anyone. That's not normal at 19 is it? In fact, as an aside I didn't understand what 'turned on' meant until I was 27 after having had 2 children!

So I hung out with this guy and we had a great time, but one night he got totally pissed and while I was hoisting him into bed he got really weepy that no-one wanted to shag him. So i did. It just seemed the right thing to do!! And I left the door open so I could hear the call buzzers of the other residents. I absolutely NO idea that this was a crazy wrong thing to do.

The next morning he spoke to me and said he was fine to carry on shagging me but could I keep it quiet because people would expect him to be shagging a big titted blonde bimbo. That seemed perfectly reasonable to me, so I kept it quiet, but of course it got out and everyone took the piss (good humoured) but were fine with it including management.

Then I fell pregnant. I don't recall EVER having given it a single iota of thought, but I must have known the facts somewhere because when my periods stopped I knew to get a test. And I phoned him and asked him to keep it quiet until I got back, but he'd told people by the time I got back. He was delighted and actually I realised I was delighted too. Not about having a baby, I still hadn't thought about that, but I knew it meant I couldn't go home.

I got sacked from work for having an inappropriate relationship (which they'd known about for months), but they also tried to talk to me darkly about 'options'. I know now that they were talking about abortion, but I didn't at the time, everyone talked in riddles, and I was too embarrassed anyway.

We got married, but I don't recall us ever agreeing this, it was just constructed around us by both our parents. And then I realised it was down to me. I'd stopped partying the minute I found I was pregnant, so at least I had that sense. But I genuinely thought I was going to look after a severely disabled man round the clock...and a baby...and earn enough money to rent a flat...and sort out all the adaptations needed. I'll leave it there, but the situation of me trying to sort this out as a still very clueless 20 year old don't show many improvements. I had absolutely no idea that we could get help with care or housing at all.

I'm not sure why I've written this, but I don't know, just wondering how out of the ordinary I was (and maybe still am).

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Digforvictories · 30/10/2022 12:21

I sort of get it.
Especially the stroking the penis like a cat! I probably would have done the same if I had been asked. (thank goodness nobody asked)

How do you feel about it now? Are you still with him?

Fenneloup · 30/10/2022 12:25

I was similar with the sex, though thankfully never got pregnant. I was diagnosed autistic as an adult.

NatalieIsFreezing · 30/10/2022 12:30

So OP what did you do?! Are you still married? Don't wish to sound horrible but you seem like you were extremely passive in your own life with no-one to actually ask what you wanted and point out actual consequences?!

AndyWarholsPiehole · 30/10/2022 12:34

Is this some wank fantasy about abusing your postion of power to shag a vulnerable disabled person?

inappropriateraspberry · 30/10/2022 12:37

You sound very naive! How long ago was this? I can't imagine anyone in the last 30 years or so not being aware of the consequences of unprotected sex etc.
You'd have to live a very sheltered life I think. Are you still married? Did it work out?

tickticksnooze · 30/10/2022 12:38

You sexually abused someone and casually post about it online?

OriginalUsername2 · 30/10/2022 12:42

I relate. I think I was (still am) undiagnosed autistic. Just went along with everything. Very similar to you.

I accidentally fell into a self-help book obsession and started making conscious choices for myself in my 20’s.

Xmasbaby11 · 30/10/2022 12:44

I'm 46 and didn't kiss anyone until I was 16. This was considered vv late ,so your story is surprising. You were shockingly clueless. Sex education was pretty thorough in those days and my age group knew how to avoid pregnancy and STDs. I also had it drilled into me to get an education and career before marriage and babies.

NukaColaQuantum · 30/10/2022 12:46

You were raped and then went on to sexually abuse/rape a vulnerable disabled people.

Cool story bro.

OriginalUsername2 · 30/10/2022 12:46

I was also very sheltered by my mum. Had I been allowed to mixed sex parties I might have figured out some things before being let out into the big wide world.

OriginalUsername2 · 30/10/2022 12:48

NukaColaQuantum · 30/10/2022 12:46

You were raped and then went on to sexually abuse/rape a vulnerable disabled people.

Cool story bro.

Some really ableist comments here. Disabled people can consent to sex.

NukaColaQuantum · 30/10/2022 12:52

OriginalUsername2 · 30/10/2022 12:48

Some really ableist comments here. Disabled people can consent to sex.

No shit, I’m a disabled person who consents to sex.

But I’m not living in a supported living place, having sex with someone in a position of power/caring responsibility.

AndyWarholsPiehole · 30/10/2022 12:53

Some really ableist comments here. Disabled people can consent to sex

Oh be quiet.

Don't you know that a care assistant shagging her client is a gross abuse of power? Do you think both parties have an equal ability to consent in that situation?

BetterBeCarefulBoysYouJustMightSetTheWorldOnFire · 30/10/2022 13:12

I did think about sex and know what it was and want to do it at 16. However the first time I saw a real life penis up close I was very shocked that the testicles were all one thing. I don't know why but I'd assumed they'd be two individual things, like cherries on a stalk BlushGrin I had no brothers, although I'd seen my dad and grandad naked casually (like when getting changed for swimming) but obviously hadn't looked in any detail at their 'areas'. I was so shocked I almost fell off the bed! I've got a couple of friends who have said they also thought this, so I don't think that I'm a complete freak, but clearly this was a bit naive.

incheon · 30/10/2022 13:15

this is more than simply being naive, you’ve basically explained being manipulated to date, have sex with multiple people (leading to getting sacked) and marriage. That’s not normal teen naivety

SEmyarse · 30/10/2022 16:27

Believe me I know it's not normal, I look back with horror.

It's interesting to see people mention autism because I do suspect I might be. Of course I shouldn't have had sex with a person I'm caring for, but it's yet another thing that didn't even enter my mind. I genuinely thought I was behaving in the expected manner. He'd had loads of sexual partners, most of whom previous carers. And it was only when I fell pregnant that the management were unhappy, until then it was positively encouraged (in a laddish way).

For those that want to know what happened. Well, it took 4.5 years to sort out adapted housing, and a care package. And then because I was so gutted at how badly it had affected my early years with DS, I had another child to try to be a proper family. It wasn't BAD, we were good mates, but he was never really interested in family life, and once he had his own carers he went out partying since he'd always had to share carers in the group home. I can't blame him though, he had a very severe disability and short life expectancy, of course he should have taken more interest in his kids but I get that his life experiences were totally different and he couldn't be properly hands-on anyway.

He unfortunately died when the kids were 9 and 3.

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SEmyarse · 30/10/2022 16:29

Xmasbaby11 · 30/10/2022 12:44

I'm 46 and didn't kiss anyone until I was 16. This was considered vv late ,so your story is surprising. You were shockingly clueless. Sex education was pretty thorough in those days and my age group knew how to avoid pregnancy and STDs. I also had it drilled into me to get an education and career before marriage and babies.

I'm the same age and my experience was so far from yours it's ridiculous.

I was in the top sets at school, but I don't remember anyone mentioning careers at all for the girls. It definitely felt that the expectation was just to go and be wives and mothers.

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SystemOfAFrowns · 30/10/2022 16:49

NukaColaQuantum · 30/10/2022 12:46

You were raped and then went on to sexually abuse/rape a vulnerable disabled people.

Cool story bro.

Don’t be silly

The OP wasn’t raped

ilovepixie · 30/10/2022 17:20

BetterBeCarefulBoysYouJustMightSetTheWorldOnFire · 30/10/2022 13:12

I did think about sex and know what it was and want to do it at 16. However the first time I saw a real life penis up close I was very shocked that the testicles were all one thing. I don't know why but I'd assumed they'd be two individual things, like cherries on a stalk BlushGrin I had no brothers, although I'd seen my dad and grandad naked casually (like when getting changed for swimming) but obviously hadn't looked in any detail at their 'areas'. I was so shocked I almost fell off the bed! I've got a couple of friends who have said they also thought this, so I don't think that I'm a complete freak, but clearly this was a bit naive.

I thought that too about the testicles lol.

NukaColaQuantum · 30/10/2022 20:35

SystemOfAFrowns · 30/10/2022 16:49

Don’t be silly

The OP wasn’t raped

She said “He had sex with me” not “we had sex”. That’s very telling.

SystemOfAFrowns · 30/10/2022 20:40

NukaColaQuantum · 30/10/2022 20:35

She said “He had sex with me” not “we had sex”. That’s very telling.

The op seems pretty clueless so I’d not place too much stock on how she has worded something

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 30/10/2022 20:48

Well, I thought I was a naive 18 year old when I went to college but I did at least know that I’d get pregnant if I had unprotected sex!

SEmyarse · 30/10/2022 21:24

NukaColaQuantum · 30/10/2022 20:35

She said “He had sex with me” not “we had sex”. That’s very telling.

I worded it like that because I didn't participate, as far as I recall I just laid there. That's all I meant. I neither consented nor objected, but I don't consider it rape.

However, he did at a later date attempt to rape me against my will.

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