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"can't be asked"

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BOOooOOooOObsOnTheMoon · 29/10/2022 12:48

I've seen this on MN several times in the last week or two and haven't ever noticed it previously.

Do people mean "can't be arsed" (which would always fit, whenever I've seen it) or is "can't be asked" a similar saying that I've just never heard of?

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Lorretta150 · 26/10/2023 16:28

I’m 70 and from East Anglia and it was asked. As I recall it’s from a Song about working on the fields. Yes most young people say arsed but not my generation that live near me.

Lorretta150 · 26/10/2023 16:30

No it’s nothing to do with a polite way of saying it. It was asked when I was a boy in the 60s. Always was until someone wrote it down wrong probably due to an accent.

Lorretta150 · 26/10/2023 16:32

It was ask in 1960.

Lorretta150 · 26/10/2023 16:34

Well it was originally a song and was ask. So it may well be arse now but it wasn’t when I was a boy in the 60s.

itsmyp4rty · 26/10/2023 16:38

What did 'Can't be asked' mean in the context of the song? Did it mean can't be bothered? Is it like - there's no point asking them as they won't do it?

Paddingtonthebear · 26/10/2023 16:49

My 11yr old used the exact same phrase this morning and said she thought it was a real saying as I apparently say it all the time 😆. I do say “I can’t be arsed”

Foodorder · 26/10/2023 17:18

I've always thought "arsed" was a coarse version of the saying that should be asked.

It makes far more sense to say can't be asked to do something.

Lorretta150 · 26/10/2023 17:59

I would need to find it again but as I recall it was a song about being so exhausted and fed up that even God could not command him to do something. It didn’t just mean can’t be bothered. It meant he was prepared to be punished like being executed before doing what was asked.

I can remember the tune. It was like a hymn. The same goes for ‘Poor little Joe.’ That my Dad sang. I can’t find a version that includes his lyrics or the tune. So much American stuff if you google it. I wish now that I’d asked him to write it down.

Lorretta150 · 26/10/2023 18:03

Yes it was asked. Why it was changed to arse I can’t really say. The earliest written record of it being arse was what I believe to be a misquote in the 60s. Before then it was ask. My Grandad said ask and he had no trouble saying silly arse in front of me so why would he change it? He was 68in 1960.

passmethemalbec · 26/10/2023 18:06

My 8 year old son says this! 😂 I will not be correcting him.

CountryStore · 26/10/2023 18:09

Can't be arsed means can't be bothered

I don't know what can't be asked means, though?

I think it must be a mistake due to southerners mishearing northerners

LifeofBrienne · 26/10/2023 18:14

Lorretta150 · 26/10/2023 16:34

Well it was originally a song and was ask. So it may well be arse now but it wasn’t when I was a boy in the 60s.

I can’t speak for the 60s but through the 90s, 00s and 10s, ‘can’t be arsed’ has been standard and common British English. The first time I ever heard ‘can’t be asked’ from a native English speaker was relatively recently, from my own kids. We had to have a conversation explaining why their teachers might think they were being rude if they said that in school!

DeliahSmilah · 26/10/2023 18:21

Lorretta150 · 26/10/2023 16:34

Well it was originally a song and was ask. So it may well be arse now but it wasn’t when I was a boy in the 60s.

Susie Dent disagrees

twitter.com/susie_dent/status/1351219344412446722?lang=en

AnneWhittle · 26/10/2023 18:31

I have only ever heard cant be arsed, probably from kids in the 2010s (although I use it now myself, it does seem to capture a very specific type of disinclination) - however the youth also say CBA, or even 'ceebs'

TortolaParadise · 26/10/2023 18:35

Yes, it is a phrase in its own right.

RaininSummer · 26/10/2023 19:01

'Can't be asked' makes no sense whatsoever in the contexts it is normally used.

Balloonhearts · 26/10/2023 19:01

It's a child friendly variation on the phrase. I substitute it for can't be arsed/ can't be fucked when children are around.

Balloonhearts · 26/10/2023 19:04

Asked does make more sense though and I do remember that song as well, that was asked.

MuggleMe · 26/10/2023 20:45

As a child I used to think it was asked, and was told off for using it because others knew of it as arsed.

MrsMenmen · 26/10/2023 20:48

I can't be asked with this thread

Catsmere · 27/10/2023 05:49

InsertPunHere · 29/10/2022 14:22

“Like I could care less” was a sarcastic response originally in North America when I was young. Somehow it overtook “couldn’t care less”

If only they'd use the full phrase, it would make sense then! But I've never seen or heard it as anything but "I could care less" and it means the opposite, and sounds stupid. Be easier if they'd say "Like I care."

Blippard · 27/10/2023 06:37

I've seen people say/type it that way a lot. I've always assumed they just had it wrong.

Usernamesarenoteasy · 27/10/2023 08:23

CountryStore · 26/10/2023 18:09

Can't be arsed means can't be bothered

I don't know what can't be asked means, though?

I think it must be a mistake due to southerners mishearing northerners

It's definitely nothing to do with southerners mishearing northerners. It's always been arsed, and I've always been in the south. Asked just makes no sense to me.

Seymour5 · 27/10/2023 08:38

So many words are misheard, and then misspelled.

I want to scream every time I see or hear ‘prostrate cancer’. its prostate ffs. No second r.

Another vote here for can’t be arsed. I’ve never heard can’t be asked. And when did ‘set foot’ become ‘step foot’?

EveryKneeShallBow · 27/10/2023 09:46

Was always arsed for me, too. And in my broad Bristle parents’ accent sounds nothing liked asked, so wouldn’t cause any confusion.

Also, can’t be asked doesn’t make sense as explained by pp. No matter how tired one is, you can always be asked anything by anyone. Whether you can be arsed to respond is another matter.

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