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Tips for shy child?

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ShynessGirl · 28/10/2022 21:00

DD is 8.

Will talk to her teacher if he talks to her directly but won’t ask for help or seek him out if there’s a problem at playtimes etc. She will struggle in class rather than ask for help (No TA). This has been the same with all 3 of her previous teachers who were all female so I don’t think it’s a male thing. Teacher says she’s a little bit behind because she won’t ask for help, he tries to get round everyone but can’t get always get to everyone as it’s a class of 33 with just him (not critisicing btw I couldn’t teach 33 8 and 9 year olds).

Won’t alert anyone at school if she leaves her lunchbox at home, and will not join the queue for dinners even though she’s been told more times than I can count that she doesn’t have to tell an adult she can just join the queue, and the office will contact me to sort payment (it’s all automated anyway so I’d just get an email and pay it when I could). Has been known to go without lunch because of this, teacher is trying to remember to check in the morning but she is also known to lie to “save face” and the teacher won’t physically check her bag and doesn’t have access to the online system where the lunches are ordered by parents (as it’s a completely different system).

Won’t ask to fill water bottle at school if it’s empty even though her classmates do and have never been told no (KS2 and above don’t have sinks but teachers keep jugs of water for filling bottles) so has been known to go all afternoon without a drink.

Won’t ask ExH or his GF for things at their house, she goes EOWend and she won’t even tell them when she’s eaten enough or ask for a drink (she has allergies so she has to ask at theirs as GFs DC has different allergies so they keep things with DDs allergens in the house whereas I don’t). She’s even known to hold her need to go to the toilet until she’s home, she also does this at school won’t ask to go or show her pass to go and is still having regular toileting accidents at school due to this. DD basically won’t talk to the GF at all.

Won’t speak to her swimming teacher who she’s had for 2 years. Won’t speak to Brownies leaders – but says she loves both and doesn’t want to stop. Doesn’t speak to the lunchtime TAs at school even though one of them was the class TA for all of Years 1 and 2 (she was in the class with the child the TA is assigned to but is now in the other class to this child). Won’t tell them if she falls over or even tell her teacher even though we need to know.

Won’t speak to her orthopaedic consultant (she has a hip issue) who she’s had since she was a baby.

Chatters away happily to me until we meet someone, and then just sits/stands there, if I ask her directly a question when we’re with someone she’ll shrug. Is known to hide when workmen come over to fix problems with our house.
She does always ask to go to the toilet at home even though I’ve told her to just go but that’s all.

It’s just us at home, me and her. No pets or anything (we used to but they died and I currently work too much to think about getting anymore). ExHs house is him, his GF, DD and sometimes GFs DC (a boy and a girl) and ExH and his GF have been together 3 years and lived together 18 months nearly so she’s not new on the scene.

At home she’s fine, I have no concerns. She’s chatty, cheeky, but generally happy and always has lots to say. Plays fine. She is fine with other children, in the park will strike up a conversation with any child we meet, and school have said she seems to play happily at playtime.

So how on earth can I help her? She’s in her final year at this school (first school – 3 tier system) and goes to middle school in September where I’m worried her shyness will hold her back.

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Twizbe · 28/10/2022 21:11

This sounds very much like selective or situational mutism. My son was the same as a small child. He could talk to us perfectly but could not speak to anyone else.

Get a referral to speech therapy as there's lots that can be done.

In the mean time I really recommend a book called 'my name is Eliza and I don't talk at school'. It did wonders for my son and the brave chart really spoke to him.

LadyChamberlain · 28/10/2022 22:15

I was going to say it sounds like selective mutism.

ShynessGirl · 29/10/2022 10:17

Thanks both, will have a look into it. SALT discharged her without seeing her as she can talk and be understood by me, so I need to look at other diagnositic routes.

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ShynessGirl · 29/10/2022 10:17

Thanks both, will have a look into it. SALT discharged her without seeing her as she can talk and be understood by me, so I need to look at other diagnositic routes.

Go back to SALT and state your concerns are with selective mutism.

Sometimes you have to be super specific for them to see where the issue lies.

My son has overcome it which is great. It is possible to make massive headway with the right support.

It's essentially and anxiety driven condition where they become unable to speak. It can go hand in hand with ASD but not always

Mumofshygirl · 06/08/2023 20:17

Hi, I've just read your post after coming back from (yet another) family event where my chronically shy daughter has stood on the periphery and hasn't joined in with any of the games or fun that her cousins were having together.
It's soooooo hard. We talk about there being a fine line between shyness and what others might see as rudeness (which i feel bad about because i don't want to add to her anxieties and put blame on her because I know she finds it so hard - i don't believe that she chooses to spend her time excluded and isolated from all the fun that her friends and cousins have together - this isn't new, it's always been how she is and generally its accepted but as they're all growing up, I find her cousins are less inclined to encourage her to join in). It's reaching the point where i think should i not take her to these events but that would just exclude her even more from these valuable lifelong relationships.
Have things improved for your daughter? I wondered if you have any tips or advice based on your experience?

bucketfull · 11/12/2023 11:07

Hi, I was about to start a similar thread as my child is like that.

My six year old finds it hard to greet people, although has now starter doing little waves with his hand...

He can be a bit cheeky when with his friends at school - laugh and chatter even during lessons - so I'm not sure his teachers realise that when he walks in without saying 'good morning' it's anxiety driven and not rudeness. He's never been able to say it.
He didn't want a photo with Santa yesterday because of how anxious he was. In a new situation always sits aside and not join in/ take a long time. He is finding it hard to video chat to his grandparents and aunts (they live abroad) and they think he doesn't speak their language, but he does have a good enough grasp of it- just very, very conscious and not able to relax and try and communicate...

Hopefully, somebody still follows the thread and has some tips. I am dreading the Christmas show. He has lines which he memorised straight away, but not sure he'll be able to say them out loud with the parents watching.

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